The Official Halo 4 Forge Thread

[Destroyaaa]

I like the 2 disc idea although id split it up like this

 

Disc 1- campaign, firefight, co-op campaign

 

Disc 2- matchmaking, custom games, forge

 

theater could be included on both discs.

 

 

 

As for forge. RussianPenguin you covered pretty much everything I'd like to see. Just thought of this though what about customization of your monitor? Add some colors, emblems, just for the sake of spicing it up a bit.

[warthogger14]

I saw that furniture was mentioned, I don't think that will show up,who cares if your trying to make a house, manage with what they give you.

[eliteultra]

 

This are

DeftestHawk's

ideas for a better forge. They were pasted here from his closed thread.

 

 

 

 

I have gone through these ideas with my friends over Xbox live they agree that these would be awesome in halo 4 forge.

 

1.) remove the budget idea and replace it with memory for exampled it would say how many MB aloud to be used on that map and it would count down to 0 when it reaches 0 you cannot place anything on that map.

 

2.) to have the ability to change the texture of a map so instead of having just a snow world you could change it to sand grass snow ect. or just put them all in 1 map.

 

3.) to be able to forge bigger vehicles like the scarab.

 

4.) like in halo reach you can change part of an objects colour but in halo 4 you should be able to change the material an object is made out of.

 

5.) change of weather on a map or/and day and night cycle.

 

6.) the ability to create the size of a block.

 

7.) like in halo 3 you can make it so only the leader can forge well i think in halo 4 you should be able to pick who is aloud to forge in your game.

 

8.) the ability to change the game type in forge like in halo 3.

 

9.)more options before you start up forge.

 

10.)space forge e.g. were you can build stuff in space.

 

I hope my ideas help you with some part of halo forge after all forge is what makes halo fun for years.

 

yes thiiiiiiis

[Quietmeteor]

heres an interesting idea (i dont know if its been said) but admin control in forge games for host. For example taking away somebodies building permissions or griefing powers for obvious reasons.

[Absolute Dog]

heres an interesting idea (i dont know if its been said) but admin control in forge games for host. For example taking away somebodies building permissions or griefing powers for obvious reasons.

Actually not a bad idea. I do like to offer friend to see a map as it goes together and for company, but they do sometimes inadvertently delete something.

[Choot 'em]

heres an interesting idea (i dont know if its been said) but admin control in forge games for host. For example taking away somebodies building permissions or griefing powers for obvious reasons.

Yes, very good idea, especially for noobs to forge like me. Didn't know the specific commands for each button.

Actually not a bad idea. I do like to offer friend to see a map as it goes together and for company, but they do sometimes inadvertently delete something.

Didn't mean to AD, LMAO!! I have gotten alot better though, lol!

[Geofry199]

DUDE check out these guys vid:

Team0Epiphony (on youtube)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsX7reMOlT4

 

fast forward awhile, he is talking to the computing guy and he says "...sir, Halo 4 is due to be released in November..." check, its true! but was he lying? if he wasn't lying then YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH! ME GUSTA! XD

 

EDIT: I just found it, around 4:25 to 4:35, listen carefully!

Edited February 23, 2012 by Geofry199

[Geofry199]

I think that u should be able to put massive forunner structures on a map create your own map from scratch and place a halo down and select an option which let's u forge in space and have battles in space and then fly a pelican or something on to the halo to drop reinforcements then back up to a frigate or supercarrier. Please tell me what u think.

 

hmm... I think it would have to load it inbetween space and land, maybe a cool "re-entering" cutscene, and a "entering orbit" cutscene? or, maybe more like Star Wars Battlefront II?

[Geofry199]

One map, white space, with a blue grid that goes on for an amazing length. Editable climate, weather, land mass. Forge 3.0.

 

that is cool, buuut i do think that PC would have a better time doing that than consoles (I'm referring to Crysis Sandbox here), but maybe they could do it... possibly a separate gametype, or a separate disc alltogether?

[Timbit]

i love forging but i realy succk and need training badly

[assissanman]

I think there should be like a pelican and 2 hornets guarding it while there is a phantom and 2 banshees chasing them like in the mission in reach where emile is trying to take down the banshees but with it in custom games the pelican has the covenant core and the covenant try to get it back i mean literaly they need to put hornets and pelicans and phantoms/spirits in forge.

[assissanman]

I think that u should be able to put massive forunner structures on a map create your own map from scratch and place a halo down and select an option which let's u forge in space and have battles in space and then fly a pelican or something on to the halo to drop reinforcements then back up to a frigate or supercarrier. Please tell me what u think.

I think this is an awesome idea I mean seriously they have space battles that is freakin awesome plus vehicles that can take you to the ground for a ground battle how is that dull boring because if it is then you probally aint a halo fan!

[spartan 326]

i would love veical/gun customization for forge and matchmaking, as well as the armour customizaton

[ixamxcanadian]

make it so each map is built on its own sandbox with forge pieces. So say you have a completely drawn up and made map like zealot, then you break all the parts of it up into different pieces that can be used as forge pieces. for example the bridges, all the lifts, the barriers top mid, etc. this way when someone goes into forge they can delete the entire map and be left with the sky box and a set area to work with. this will give forgers so many more places and pieces to work with while also getting rid of the biggest problem with forge 2.0, EVERYTHING is grey and dull.

[Wag33z]

Sounds good to me mate.

[masseygame]

when thinking of things like this you need to remember that they have these limits so the game doesn't crash, remember the xbox is a very old limited bit of kit.

[BigMartin58]

Ok guys so i've had this idea for a long time and I wanted to share with some people. Do you guys think that Forge should continue being the same way it is, as in a pre-built map that you make maps on. Or an entirely blank canvas, that you create EVERYTHING from scratch or pre-loaded objects. You would start on a "nothing" map and then make the terrain, then select the sky texture, then select the time of day, the area the map takes place (halo ring, planet, death star, etc.), and so on and so forth... The third option I have thought of i a pre-built solar system in which you can travel all the way across the solar system and build your maps on different planets or rings within the solor system, and the tempurature differentiates depending on how far you are from the sun, and you can select the planets and move them closer or farther from the home star. Tell me what you guys think!

[Twinreaper]

Not gonna happen. Obviously everyone just bypasses everything I ever say about Forge for some strange reason. Perhaps the truth is too painfull. verything you are asking for is impossible to do on the console with a game specifically like Halo. Skyboxes are predefined in the scenario tag, and must be edited with the inclusion of additional sky items. Altering the sky would not alter the lightmap, making it pointless to do so if you wanted to go from night to day.....the lighting would be the same. And ighting based on time of day, requires per-pixel realtime lighting. The only items that use such a system are stand alone light scenery items. Usually placing more than about 10 of these items causes lag in fp's and slows down or nullifies half of them rendering.

 

Making terrain is impossible since the collision and phmo for the map is calculated and stored via bsp raw during level compiling. Unless they find a way to give you "sandbox" quality tools on a console, needing well over 6 gigs of RAM....which the 360 does not have...nor the processor horsepower (at least quad core at 3.7 ghz)

 

PLANETARY TRAVEL IN A Halo game....via one map or layout?!? Are you mad or just dumb. BSP's are broken down into various standalone bsp's. Everytime you see a "loading done" text flash across your screen, you are entering and playing on a new bsp level inside the map. BSP's are connected by "trigger volumes", and you cannot see thru or past or even into another bsp section. Every bsp section is self contained and contains only that BSP's objects, spawns, etc... Having a Solar system to play in would be pointless since you would have to wait till enemies crossed over to the bsp you were in...again making it stupid becuase you would not see them coming. They would just magically appear next to you all the sudden.

 

I applaud your creative thinking, but when it comes to wanting things in a Halo game, it is best to do your homework about the egnines to see what can and cannot be done. Or you could just ask me.

[BigMartin58]

An entire Universe to forge on? It would be so big it would have to come on a seperate disc.

 

...

 

Ok so picture this...

 

Main Menu: Select "Forge Universe"

 

No Gametype, Map name: Universe, Unable to change map

 

Start up game

 

Start in Pause menu

 

Resume game

 

Forge Menu - Drop Down List:

 

Planetary

 

Objects

 

Scenary

 

Weaponry

 

Vehicles

 

Spawnery

 

:End of List:

 

 

Select: Planetary - Drop down list:

 

Stars

 

Planets

 

Moons

 

Rings

 

Halo rings

 

:End of list:

 

 

Select: Stars - Drop Down List:

 

Wolf 359

 

Sun

 

Sirius

 

Pollux

 

Acturus

 

Aldebaren

 

Rigel

 

Antares

 

Betelguese

 

Mu Cephei

 

VY Canis Majoris

 

:End of List:

 

 

Back

 

Selct: Planets - Drop Down List:

 

Mercury

 

Venus

 

Earth

 

Mars

 

Jupiter

 

Saturn

 

Uranus

 

Neptune

 

Reach

 

Threshold

 

Onyx

 

Sanghelios

 

Harvest

 

Shield 0459

 

Charum Hakkor

 

Sigma 7

 

:End of List:

 

 

Select: Earth

 

 

Delete

 

Forge Menu

 

Back

 

Select:Rings - Drop Down List:

 

Jupiter

 

Saturn

 

Uranus

 

Neptune

 

:End of List:

 

 

Back

 

Select: Halo Rings - Drop Down List:

 

Installation 00 (Ark)

 

Installation 01

 

Installation 02

 

Installation 03

 

Installation 04

 

Installation 05

 

Installation 06

 

Installation 07

 

:End of List:

 

 

Back

 

Back

 

Select: Objects - Drop Down List:

 

Geometry

 

Bridges and platforms

 

Decorative

 

Doors

 

Inclines

 

Natural

 

:End of List:

 

 

Back

 

Back

 

Select: Weaponry - Drop Down List:

 

Human

 

Forunner

 

Covenant

 

Custom

 

:End of List:

 

Back

 

Select: Vehicles - Drop Down List:

 

Driveable

 

Destroyed

 

:End of List:

 

Select: Driveable - Drop Down List:

 

Human

 

Forunner

 

Covenant

 

:End of List:

 

Select: Human - Drop Down List:

 

Cruiser

 

Halcyon-Class Cruiser

 

Frigate

 

Longsword

 

Buffalo

 

Elephant

 

Pelican

 

Scorpion

 

Falcon

 

Lifepod

 

Hornet

 

Warthog

 

Mongoose

 

:End of List:

 

Back

 

Select: Covenant - Drop Down List:

 

Carrier

 

Cruiser

 

Scarab

 

Phantom

 

Dropship

 

Seraph

 

Plasma Gun Tower

 

Shadow

 

Wraith

 

Spectre

 

Shade

 

Ghost

 

:End of List:

 

Back

 

Back

 

Back

 

:End:

 

 

 

 

What do you guys think?

 

And BTW these photos are not real I made them in photoshop.

[BigMartin58]

Not gonna happen. Obviously everyone just bypasses everything I ever say about Forge for some strange reason. Perhaps the truth is too painfull. verything you are asking for is impossible to do on the console with a game specifically like Halo. Skyboxes are predefined in the scenario tag, and must be edited with the inclusion of additional sky items. Altering the sky would not alter the lightmap, making it pointless to do so if you wanted to go from night to day.....the lighting would be the same. And ighting based on time of day, requires per-pixel realtime lighting. The only items that use such a system are stand alone light scenery items. Usually placing more than about 10 of these items causes lag in fp's and slows down or nullifies half of them rendering.

 

Making terrain is impossible since the collision and phmo for the map is calculated and stored via bsp raw during level compiling. Unless they find a way to give you "sandbox" quality tools on a console, needing well over 6 gigs of RAM....which the 360 does not have...nor the processor horsepower (at least quad core at 3.7 ghz)

 

PLANETARY TRAVEL IN A Halo game....via one map or layout?!? Are you mad or just dumb. BSP's are broken down into various standalone bsp's. Everytime you see a "loading done" text flash across your screen, you are entering and playing on a new bsp level inside the map. BSP's are connected by "trigger volumes", and you cannot see thru or past or even into another bsp section. Every bsp section is self contained and contains only that BSP's objects, spawns, etc... Having a Solar system to play in would be pointless since you would have to wait till enemies crossed over to the bsp you were in...again making it stupid becuase you would not see them coming. They would just magically appear next to you all the sudden.

 

I applaud your creative thinking, but when it comes to wanting things in a Halo game, it is best to do your homework about the egnines to see what can and cannot be done. Or you could just ask me.

 

if the terrain thing is impossible then how come far cry 2 can do it?

[SkullWarriors]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8qa-naczjg check this out this game is on the xbox and it has multiplayer just like halo does and its map editor is older and better than forge and it has way more options than halo's forge does. just imagine if 343 gives you all of the options that you in this game and more along with good graphics and fun play-ability. and to prevent your xbox from crashing, put this map editor in a separate disc to be used only as a map editor and maps to be played on the actual halo 4 disc. it would be so cool and map making would be interesting and just plain looking around would be fun if the map wasn't very good. check out that link if you haven't already.

[Veer Zamamai]

I think an editor like Far Cry would be a lot better for Halo, except the map should be a lot, lot larger.

We need Phantoms and Pelicans, which are things that people want. They want to be able to walk around the Phantom and use the T51 detachable turrets while someones flying it.

 

343 need to add the things we want to Forge, not the things they want, unfortunately like Bungie did. We want to add NPC animals like in FC2, with the birds. NPC's that actually move and work. Things like that would make Halo, just bosser than boss.

[x toby97 x]

I feel like i'm just saying things other people said but...

 

The group tool would be pretty cool, I would quite like to press a button on an object and everything that is touching it then attaches itself to it. This would allow you move things as big as whole bases without having to move every single object one at a time. I think you should also be able to save that specific new object that you have made, name it, then put it in a category and it will appear in that category in the editors menu with a custom symbol next to it. This would save a lot of time if you wanted an object that looked cool and then put it in to other maps you make as a kind of signature as well as lots more useful things. Also if you wanted to separate the pieces again, then you could just press the another button and take out what you want.

 

I also think that weather would be a nice touch and it could really expand on the whole custom game experience after you make your map. I could think of a lot of things you could do with fog, rain and wind, it could really expand on infection. You could have a scale of how strong you want it to be, for example, you could have a scale of 1-100. With this example, when it is set at 1, the wind would only be able to make a golf ball roll very slowly, the rain would be a very light drizzle and the fog would be nothing but a slight blur. But if you set them to 100, the wind would be able to push any flying vehicle trying to go through the wind head on would be flying backwards, the rain could turn into a devasting downpour and the fog would be so bad that you wouldn't even be able to see anything, it could even make the end of your gun fade slightly. If you used them at 100 you would be able to create a killer hurricane, or you could just use them at 50 if you liked the affect it made.

 

I also think that there should be a drivable boat, preferably one with a turret, or at least allow something like the warthog or the mongoose to float. I would love to be able to create a big team battle at sea.

 

I would also like to add a new colour changing system. I think a colour pallet for objects would allow for maps to look a lot better. I also think you should be able to completely change the colour of the object instead of just changing the colour of one thin line that goes unnoticed most of the time. I would also like to save some of the colours as presets aswell.

 

oh great... i've made myself hopeful now...

[SkullWarriors]

boats would be cool and someone from bungie has been trying to get boats in halo since halo 1 but never got his boat, unfortunately... i guess boats are just too hard to be compatible with halo's style of game-play:

skip to about 9:55

[Zamio]

This sounds awsome. Placable AI's would be great. Being able to tweak stats for AI's, even better. If Bungie lets 343i have forge however, we will see.