Axilus Prime Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 If Peanut is Mafia, then we should let Bnus go. But if he isn't, then we keep a close eye on Bnus and do not trust him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delpen9 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Good job Delpen you seem to have a done a very well psychoanalytic of me. (I'm being serious good job I didn't even notice that about myself). Sadly, that is all I can do for now. Hopefully, someday I can have a proper psychometric analysis of you. Your psychosis perturbs me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delpen9 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Bnus, there is a fault in your planning. You tend to believe what people first tell you, probably processing things through a filter to establish relevance and falsifications. That can be your undoing with new members that attempt to distort your perspective from the get-go. It isn't an easy task, but you can be deceived; unless you learn from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 If Peanut is Mafia, then we should let Bnus go. But if he isn't, then we keep a close eye on Bnus and do not trust him. I don't want you guys to trust me because I don't trust you guys. I am a lone wolf. I am PUBLICALLY(that means in the forum thread) aiding both sides. I guess you can say I'm neutral. I find it boring to go "Pro Town! Pro Town! Pro Town" but I find it boring to go "Mafia! Mafia! Mafia!" I have no active PM convos with anyone. I am merely a bread who offers insight. I give Pro-Town clues to how the mafia thinks and I give Mafia a chance to change their strategy(since I told you guys how they think) I thought it would be obvious by now but I don't really have an allegiance. I just want justice and death to the mafia. I also want the mafia to adapt new strategy and fool Pro Town. I want the game to last long and be fun for everyone(since I kind of killed it last game I must redeem myself). That is my goal so nobodys trust is needed for me to achieve my goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delpen9 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Axilus, you ALWAYS make sense, and give a thorough bounty of evidence and hypothesis with every post, which makes you an understandable target. You make yourself too sane, which can be an asset when not killed, but less so in generality. Your reasoning like I said is thorough, even so to the point that you consider possibilities that I never noticed. In this game, that trait doesn't help me so much as it does enlighten me. All evidence is psychological. If we aren't proficient in psychoanalysis, we can't even rely on probability. If random people are killed, then chances are (67%) that pro-town would win in a 'hanging' battle; but we all know there is more to this conundrum. 67% couldn't be farther than the truth when the night scenes are included. Assuming that all five night scenes consecutively kill a pro-town member, the pro-town is at a technical disadvantage. The game has 1/32% chance of ending in 5 rounds through lynching, by killing off all the mafia in this instance. There are 10 pro-town members and 5 mafia. After 5 rounds, 5 pro-town will be dead and likely 2-3 mafia will be dead. We are left with 2-3 pro-town that will be at a disadvantage, because along with 50% chance of lynching they must endure the night scenes. This gives the pro-town a 25% chance of winning in that predicament, which makes up 31/32% of the scenarios. Overall, that would give pro-town an 8.75/32% chance of winning (so roughly 27%). Don't like those odds? Tough luck. It gets worse. The mafia know who each other are-- We can't forget the simple facts! That boost is incalculable, but I feel that this advantage totally outstrips the advantage given by the detective, mayor, and medic. So how does the pro-town win? You safely stow away the detective into the vaults of secrecy. The catacombs, or the annals of what is and forever shall be. When the detective dies, all that is left is intelligence. Probability has betrayed the pro-town, and so could strategy if we don't embrace it. Lone wolf tactics are impossible (27%), but there is one procedure that could sway the odds. This is a strategy that can't be beaten even if the mafia know it. I'm serious. Anyone care to see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Anyone care to see it? No you shouldn't show anyone because the mafia can easily think up a counter strategy(if they're smart enough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi1176 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Eh why not? lets see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delpen9 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 No you shouldn't show anyone because the mafia can easily think up a counter strategy(if they're smart enough) ...that's where you come in Bnus. Hint: I'm calling the tactic "Island Hopping". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Is not JL Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Also the scenes do not contain clues as stated in the previous game of Mafia. 'Previous Game' LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 'Previous Game' LOL Not to mention this is Slik we're talking about He loves Windows Vista he can do anything. ...that's where you come in Bnus. Hint: I'm calling the tactic "Island Hopping". How can I hop over and help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delpen9 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 The plan is axiomatic in nature, and requires one thing to be effective. If it doesn't receive this one condition the plan may dissolve or never form in the first place. ...but as the game is now, there is absolutely no way that pro-town can win. NO WAY! This is the best suggestion I can give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 The plan is axiomatic in nature, and requires one thing to be effective. If it doesn't receive this one condition the plan may dissolve or never form in the first place. ...but as the game is now, there is absolutely no way that pro-town can win. NO WAY! This is the best suggestion I can give. I wouldn't be so neagtive, It is just nobody in Pro-Town trusts each other. I honestly think if Pro-Town is going to win they need to take the risk of group PMs. It might not be the best option but you need a way to coordinate like the mafia. Thats how the mafia win they work as a "team" and honestly it isn't hard to figure out who can be Pro-Town or mafia. Just ask for proof. Nobody here(but me) can properly fake evidence as good as I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Actually, I have a PM with almost all the players. My intention was to coordinate the team, but not in a group, in order to solve both problems. If one person gives me good input that is not sensitive information, I share it or carry it out. If a person does give me sensitive information, I only share it with those I know I can trust fully, unless absolutely necessary. So far I have not needed to share sensitive information. But that may change, depending on how Night 2 plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi1176 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Bnus just slapped me in the shoutbox, how dare he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikslik7 Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) I will update the game in about 15 hours or so, Late night at work, and don't feel like doing anything before going to bed here Edited April 26, 2014 by Sikslik7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Hmm. I now have reason to believe Yoshi is Mafia. Far more reason than my previous accusations, in fact. When I sent out the call for all pro-town to PM me, I knew that Mafia would be among those who answered. Yoshi PM'd me. When I asked him what his role was, he claimed to be the Mayor. I requested a screenshot of the inside of the PM telling him that he was the mayor. He read that PM about an hour after I sent it. That happened over 24 hours ago. In addition, I found that the particular message claiming he was Mayor had been edited. All text was replaced with the word "hello". I have received neither screenshot nor further message from him and the edit is beyond suspicious. Unless he can provide a substantial defense I believe he must die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delpen9 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'll save my strategy for next game and see what you guys can muster up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unease Peanut Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Farewell Cruel world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I have received neither screenshot nor further message from him and the edit is beyond suspicious. Unless he can provide a substantial defense I believe he must die. I told Yoshi not to trust anyone. He sent me a PM asking if we could share information awhile back and I sent him a message saying trust nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Well then....... Keep your allies close and your enemies closer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Is not JL Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Hmm. I now have reason to believe Yoshi is Mafia. Far more reason than my previous accusations, in fact. When I sent out the call for all pro-town to PM me, I knew that Mafia would be among those who answered. Yoshi PM'd me. When I asked him what his role was, he claimed to be the Mayor. I requested a screenshot of the inside of the PM telling him that he was the mayor. He read that PM about an hour after I sent it. That happened over 24 hours ago. In addition, I found that the particular message claiming he was Mayor had been edited. All text was replaced with the word "hello". I have received neither screenshot nor further message from him and the edit is beyond suspicious. Unless he can provide a substantial defense I believe he must die. Can you show us the screenshot? So we can compare it to the one that the previous one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi1176 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Hmm. I now have reason to believe Yoshi is Mafia. Far more reason than my previous accusations, in fact. When I sent out the call for all pro-town to PM me, I knew that Mafia would be among those who answered. Yoshi PM'd me. When I asked him what his role was, he claimed to be the Mayor. I requested a screenshot of the inside of the PM telling him that he was the mayor. He read that PM about an hour after I sent it. That happened over 24 hours ago. In addition, I found that the particular message claiming he was Mayor had been edited. All text was replaced with the word "hello". I have received neither screenshot nor further message from him and the edit is beyond suspicious. Unless he can provide a substantial defense I believe he must die. You have mail actually, it will be explained. It was just precautions. Edit: I somewhat expected you to come out and tell people what I had told you, so I stopped using that PM. And either way now you have Pro-town against me and MAFIA against me, Great job Edited April 26, 2014 by Yoshi1176 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Pro town seems screwed at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi1176 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Pro town seems screwed at the moment. Yeah it does at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unease Peanut Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 It's all your own fault... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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