Popular Post Hydricide Posted February 19, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Do you know what bothers me the most when I am gaming, other than cheating, lag. It gets to the point where I do not even want to play at times because it seems like every host connection in both H3 and Reach is laggy beyond belief. There is a way to fix this though, and that is getting a dedicated server. Other online games use them, like Gears of War for example, and that is one reason so many people love it, no lag, all skill. I feel more and more as I play the Halo games that their hosting system was a cheap fix for a game that deserves so much more. In Halo 4 I am hoping to see a dedicated server to eliminate host, eliminate lag caused from other players, and make the game all around more enjoyable. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? 45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post highplainsdrifter Posted February 19, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 I agree http://www.343industries.org/forum/topic/5977-should-halo-4-be-on-dedicated-servers/ 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biggles Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 agreed, it will stop host booting and in some way de rankers as they can be banned off the server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedStarRocket91 Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 In short, yes. Gears of War and its sequel were unplayable online unless you were the host, but the third works perfectly. Why? Dedicated servers! 343i needs to give a good impression of itself if it's to win over those who are still suspicious of anything not made by Bungie, and giving us something which makes multiplayer that bit fairer and more balanced would go a long way to winning over the doubters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unease Peanut Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 In short, yes. Gears of War and its sequel were unplayable online unless you were the host, but the third works perfectly. Why? Dedicated servers! 343i needs to give a good impression of itself if it's to win over those who are still suspicious of anything not made by Bungie, and giving us something which makes multiplayer that bit fairer and more balanced would go a long way to winning over the doubters. Indeed GOW 3 works awesome because of the dedicated servers and it will make the halo experience awesome too (only in GOW3 if you dont have the DLC you'll be still put in hosted servers so I hope 343 doesn't do that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinreaper Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Servers are only half the issue. The rest is in Blam! 's netcode. You can have all the servers u want....but unless great support for data handling is incorporated into the engine........then its just useless hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highplainsdrifter Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Servers are only half the issue. The rest is in Blam! 's netcode. You can have all the servers u want....but unless great support for data handling is incorporated into the engine........then its just useless hardware. I read in another topic that they'll be using a version of the Reach engine (among other ingredients). Is it likely that dedicated servers would make a difference if they could modify the old engine to allow for this hootenanny to take place? Is it likely that Reach's engine is modifiable in this fashion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinreaper Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Netcode is no easy task to modify. writing a brand new code structure with latest networking models based on current networking protocols can take alone, upwards of a year to two years. Thats complete integration and fromm scratch though. to modify the reach engine, it would be an equal venture. they would first have to use the basic kernel if you will, and add onto that. Unfortunatly it isnt as easy as changing a flagged value.......unless the server support coding was already in there.....hmmmmmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highplainsdrifter Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Netcode is no easy task to modify. writing a brand new code structure with latest networking models based on current networking protocols can take alone, upwards of a year to two years. Thats complete integration and fromm scratch though. to modify the reach engine, it would be an equal venture. they would first have to use the basic kernel if you will, and add onto that. Unfortunatly it isnt as easy as changing a flagged value.......unless the server support coding was already in there.....hmmmmmm teach me....YOUR WAYS111111 you know how recently you were saying how Sabre Interactive possibly did an enormous amount of work on CEA? Is it possible that this is what they are part of the team for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinreaper Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 No, SI's involvement was strictly related to "graphic layers" and "geometry". Although they did have very little mention when it came to CEA, the project they were involved in. I suspect they are working on something else but I do remain interrsted to see if the things they are working on, are in part, part of a large release other than just the 360. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 No, SI's involvement was strictly related to "graphic layers" and "geometry". Although they did have very little mention when it came to CEA, the project they were involved in. I suspect they are working on something else but I do remain interrsted to see if the things they are working on, are in part, part of a large release other than just the 360. lolwut ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuette Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Halo has already the best secured network since almost no one lags, but when I do, I jump off about a foot high cliff and die because I keep teleporting back up, once I did that and one of my teammates looked at my dead body weirdly and walked away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbit Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 aagreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallgeese Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 I think there is already a thread on this, but Halo 4 will have a mix of host and dedicated servers, hosts will do most of the owrk, but if connections fail, or latency issues occur, or a player drops out/join in, the server will pick up the slack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight walker Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Yes, true DS would be great but thats to good te be true in a halo game. But who knows maybe halo 5 on 720. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryphakon Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Dedicated servers all around the world? Are you crazy? That would take forever to redo the client side, setting up the back end would also take years. Not only that but more players end up being in a match with P2P, just select the option for bettter connection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallgeese Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Dedicated servers all around the world? Are you crazy? That would take forever to redo the client side, setting up the back end would also take years. Not only that but more players end up being in a match with P2P, just select the option for bettter connection That is why it is going to be a mix of primarily host and some server help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryphakon Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 The dedicated servers setup the matches they don't host them. The resources required for that is far to big to be economical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I thought Halo 4 would have dedicated servers, or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventus Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 A mix between dedictated servers and hosting seems good to me. That way we won't have to wait forever when the host leaves the game and all that. Though I still hope that a bad host will not give a bad connection for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallgeese Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 A mix between dedictated servers and hosting seems good to me. That way we won't have to wait forever when the host leaves the game and all that. Though I still hope that a bad host will not give a bad connection for everyone. I think because it will be a mox, if the host has a bad connection, the server will take over while the game is finding another better connected host. At least how it seems it is supposed to work... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Other online games use them, like Gears of War for example, and that is one reason so many people love it, no lag, all skill. I'm an avid player of Gears of War been playing it for over 5 years now. Even though they added dedicated servers to it there are still many connection and registration issues with the game. Putting in servers in my opinion does not fix all the issues, sure it will make the game more consistent and help those players that have poor connections but let me tell you it does not solve every issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Stone501 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I wish! You think that the 3 billion dollar franchise would get it before gears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerica6708 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 dafuq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcatraz669 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 I agree 100% some go down 4 or 5 shots,others take whole magazines and nothing..if this whole lag thing was ironed out I can honestly say F&%k COD I would then be a Halo fanboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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