Tallgeese Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Title says it all. I could care less, but it would be kind of cool if they went back to Halo 3 style hidden bloom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko 'Zarhamee Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I want it back and it should stay visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Bloom is a necessary part of any Halo game. It's been in the games since Halo 1, although not visible via reticule. Pretty much every weapon has bloom. The faster you fire, the more wild, and less accurate your shots become, involving more skill and patience, requiring you to pace your shots, rather than spray and pray. Yes, I say bloom needs to say. It wouldn't make any sense without it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallgeese Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Ahh let me edit this poll, what I mean is should it still be visible as in Reach or invisible as in Halo 2/3. I fully agree that bloom is necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Element Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Keep it like halo 2 and 3. Without the reticule moving, it gives a bit more confidence when you need to hit that final shot to get the kill. In reach, it was more like "please hit him! please hit him!". It also helps the gameplay move a bit faster because people arent watching their reticule the whole time trying to pace their shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanicBagels Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 No it should not. That is all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoosterTeethFan Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 it should be on single shot weapons like the DMR and magnum but keep it away from my BR! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanicBagels Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 it should be on single shot weapons like the DMR and magnum but keep it away from my BR! Agreed, DMR should have bloom while BR should have its bullet spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snazz Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Having visible bloom is really not that bad, it just makes you take care to pace your shots really. I would agree with having it on single fire weapons but not the BR, I actually believe that is how it is right now anyway from watching footage of Halo 4, I could be incorrect though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skittlze Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 no bloom no. okay maybe the pistol but even the dmr shouldnt have bloom its a long range riffle its not like any spartan is actually going to lose control over their gun instead to balance the sandbox the dmr should just be more accurate than the BR but shoot slower so its better at a distance but worse mid to close range that way everything has a place BR FOR LIFE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snazz Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 no bloom no. okay maybe the pistol but even the dmr shouldnt have bloom its a long range riffle its not like any spartan is actually going to lose control over their gun instead to balance the sandbox the dmr should just be more accurate than the BR but shoot slower so its better at a distance but worse mid to close range that way everything has a place BR FOR LIFE! It isn't that easy but yes, BR for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallgeese Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Agreed, for single shot weapons like the DMR, Pistol, and Sniper, visible bloom can be understandable, but for items like the AR, BR etc. no visible bloom at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Reiden X Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Can someone pls explain what the heck "Bloom" is? I have obviously no idea of what the thing is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallgeese Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Bloom is the expansion of the center reticle when firing a weapon continuously, thus increasing the spread of the shots fired. There has been bloom since Halo CE, however, it was not until Reach that Bloom became visible to the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Reiden X Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 OHHHHH, tough question now that I know about this "Bloom". But I'll go with everyone else, I like bloom on semi automatic weapons except the Sniper Rifle. I use the DMR and the Pistol quite a bit and bloom helps me out in keeping a good flow on my shots. But I really don't see the point in making bloom visible in weapons such as the AR, Spartan Laser, Rocket Launcher, Shotgun, Machine Gun or any other automatic gun Human or Covenant. And yes I am aware that the SL and the RL as well as the shotgun are not automatic weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Boo Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Bloom will not be visible and will not have as great an effect on gameplay as reach. With the exception of the new DMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallgeese Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 @Mr. Bullet: I really hope you are right. Do you have a cideo or link to said information? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I hope its visible just so I'd know if its wild or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderWombat Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I liked the infinite bloom trick with the plasma repeater, it always amused me. But just keep it on the carbine, DMR, and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 i liked the bloom, it was fun shooting with the AR and Repeater from distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerribleTimbo Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 You never had to time your shots in previous halo's before reach simply because bloom had zero affect on where the shots went unless you were shooting at a wall, or using an automatic weapon. If your reticle is red on an enemy then I say your shot should be hitting like they used to. Halo 1 you had to lead your shots, but if you were good you could consistently get 3 shot kills. Halo 2 they hit when your reticle was red, 4 shot kills were a breeze. Halo 3 had bullet spread, quite different than bloom (aka not all 3 rounds from a br burst came out at the same time), 5 shot kills seemed to be the norm because of this. Halo Reach had bloom like how everyone thinks when they hear "bloom" mentioned for an fps, not even sure what the average shots per kill was in this one before zero bloom settings were introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallgeese Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I agree with Timbo. They need to at least go back to the Halo 3 style bullet spread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upton889 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Bloom was one of the worst changes made to the Halo franchise. With the DMR bloom on Reach there are too many shot inconsistencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Bloom was one of the worst changes made to the Halo franchise. With the DMR bloom on Reach there are too many shot inconsistencies. And thats why they invented it, so people would stop spamming shots, and start timing better which made the game more realistic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upton889 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 And thats why they invented it, so people would stop spamming shots, and start timing better which made the game more realistic. There's a difference between shot spamming and shooting accurately. If I aim my shots accurately I should be rewarded with the kill, not more shots to fire. That's the way Halo has always been and I'm sure that's why 343 is fixing the bloom to reset faster in Halo 4, so that it won't affect gameplay like that anymore. If every single person had to wait for the bloom to reset battles would be slower and tedious. But hardly anybody does because there's a better chance of someone shooting faster and taking their chances on getting a headshot at the end. And that's why it's terrible for Halo, bloom is all about chance. Even though I should be rewarded with the kill for aiming accurately and steady sometimes that won't determine whether I get that kill. I've never heard of Bungie or 343 saying that about making it realistic. In fact, 343 added Zero Bloom to the playlists because bloom was disliked by so many. If I wanted a more realistic shooting experience I would play video games that emphasize military perspectives or I would go to my nearest shooting range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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