BigMartin58 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I am just speculating on this, just as a heads-up... Ok, so when you look at an Elite, it doesn't have a visor. Just a helmet. So, I think 343 WANTED to put elites in Halo 4 as a playable character, BUT, couldn't implement how a HUD would work if the Elites don't have visors. And playing any FPS, you NEED a HUD... Just thought I'd try and clear things up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maximum Clutch Posted May 14, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Elites aren't in multiplayer because the multiplayer is a simulation and training for the spartans. It wouldn't make very much sense to be doing a spartan training exercise and see a random elite messing everything up. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMartin58 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 well then, why would you train against spartans when you (in real combat) are fighting Elites (and other covenant/forerunner)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 343industries already said that there was a story between the red against blue in multiplayer so you speculation is wrong. Also the HUD wouldn't change... look at all the other Halo games. Its basically the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARTAN 117 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 so what if the elites do not have HUDS in this game? technically, the Arbiter did not have one in Halo 2 but he was still a playable character. I think 343i tossed out the elite because they are, overall, going to be insignificant in halo 4 and would waste precious disc space that can be used for other additions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuette Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Their will be playable elites Via Elite ops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLiX Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 They wanted to keep Halo 4 mainly for Spartans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veer Zamamai Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Dude, that is the worst reason that I have ever heard for Sangheili not being in Halo 4 as playable. Besides, they're in Custom Games and Forge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Di3b BeAsTa Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 didnt they say the new main antagonist was going to be playable in multiplayer? cant remember where but im sure i read that somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB77 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Good catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer K34 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 however are these the elites we know or are they part of an old sanghelli society that rebeled against the arbiter on the homeworld (the monks) and lost but found coordinantes in a specific temple on a certain homeworld of the elites that lead them to requiem but end up running into the chief. (if you have no idea what im talking about go read halo Glasslands) it would explain the old fashion looking armour that existed thousands of years ago and why they are attacking chief (the monks hated the idea of siding with the humans they wanted all of us dead). just some food for thought. . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Boo Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Elites are not in because halo 4 multiplayer is a digital training system built for spartan IVs aboard the infinity, designed to let the Spartans learn each others tactics, weaknesses, strengths, and abilities in combat. Also, they fight against each other, for the reason that they learn what other spartan's instincts are in combat, and their fighting style. This is why there are no elites in multiplayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedStarRocket91 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 well then, why would you train against spartans when you (in real combat) are fighting Elites (and other covenant/forerunner)? Because it's generally quite difficult to train against someone who actually wants to kill you. That's normally classed as combat. OT: Interesting speculation, but unlikely. The Elites in Reach had open faces after all, and they still had a HUD: I think (though I'm quite possibly wrong) that I read in one of the novels that Elites wear some sort of contact lenses which is what their HUDs appear on, rather than being shown on the visor itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veer Zamamai Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Because it's generally quite difficult to train against someone who actually wants to kill you. That's normally classed as combat. OT: Interesting speculation, but unlikely. The Elites in Reach had open faces after all, and they still had a HUD: I think (though I'm quite possibly wrong) that I read in one of the novels that Elites wear some sort of contact lenses which is what their HUDs appear on, rather than being shown on the visor itself. I personally feel this makes more sense that the stupid reasons that have indeed been mentioned. I think I might have heard that before, recalling it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer K34 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I personally feel this makes more sense that the stupid reasons that have indeed been mentioned. I think I might have heard that before, recalling it... someone isnt stupid for just exploring an answer to why there are no elites. 343 employees have to think about this stuff everyday and frankly more then you do so dont go around claiming people are stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veer Zamamai Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 someone isnt stupid for just exploring an answer to why there are no elites. 343 employees have to think about this stuff everyday and frankly more then you do so dont go around claiming people are stupid. I am only speaking the truth. You truly are stupid for thinking that they're not in it just because some concept art has no visor. That is lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Boo Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Some do have HUDs, logically. Those classes include ultra, spec ops and ranger being the only ones logically having HUDs. Minor, zealot, general, field marshal, and officer have nothing in front of their eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Master Chief is who matters in this game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veer Zamamai Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Master Chief is who matters in this game. Yeah, that's your opinion. Keep it to yourself before I glass you planet...again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMartin58 Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 damn... i guess voicing an opinion/speculation is now prohibited... A guy can't voice his opinion without getting (sorry for the language) bitched at... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly-tendencies Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I never understood this. I think it would make more sense that Elites are enemies in H4 because they broke the truce. In Halo 3, it was more like sparring with allies than a bloodbath. And why would they train Spartans for combat against other Spartans? Elites have different head sizes and shapes, different body movements and different armor. Sounds like ineffective training to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krinn3 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) And yet again another thread has been born for people to vent about their not being elites in the multiplayer. As for the training, Im pretty sure no armed force sends a soldier out with a gun against their enemy and say "Good luck, you'll learn it as you go... hopefully". They have at least some training before combat, so spartan vs spartan training simulations makes sense. Also, this is a community forum, therefore differences in opinions are supposed to be encouraged, for it shows differing beliefs and forum diversity. If every felt the same, there would be no need for a forum like this. It's great that we all can debate about this, but honestly, there are a many threads over this exact kind of speculation, so lets try to group it all together by searching for these threads before posting a new one. I stopped using this forum for awhile because all that i ever saw on the front page was people raging about no elites. while thats mostly gone now, i see it isnt completely gone from the front The only thing i hope is that 343 will not stray from their intended course to please some of the community. Bioware did that with Mass Effect 3 with creating a new ending for the game, but i believe that 343 takes enough pride in their work to not be swayed because of a few disgruntled fans. Be strong 343, be strong. As for you Fal ' whatever, you are being quite irritating. You seem to show up anywhere elites are mentioned and are hell-bent on making sure everyone knows how you think that elites are superior and that you are more than upset at their removal from multiplayer. If you wish to comment, please keep it respectful. Calling someone's comment stupid is the farthest thing from respect, that is what is called "rude". Edited May 16, 2012 by Krinn3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shado12 lol Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 their not their because of the spartan trainung scanario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bashful Brute Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Also, I'd just like to add that the Elites in H2, H3, and Reach didn't have a visor (except for a couple in Reach), and yet they were still in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklarik Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I am just speculating on this, just as a heads-up... Ok, so when you look at an Elite, it doesn't have a visor. Just a helmet. So, I think 343 WANTED to put elites in Halo 4 as a playable character, BUT, couldn't implement how a HUD would work if the Elites don't have visors. And playing any FPS, you NEED a HUD... Just thought I'd try and clear things up... Your lack of logic is disturbing, all elites in the previous games had no visor and we still played them :thumbdown: well then, why would you train against spartans when you (in real combat) are fighting Elites (and other covenant/forerunner)? LOGIC^^ Dude, that is the worst reason that I have ever heard for Sangheili not being in Halo 4 as playable. Besides, they're in Custom Games and Forge. Not enough, i belive a elite exclusive playlist should be added, since the halo community clearly has many elite fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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