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I'm more disappointed in the fact that the gameplay we got to watch was someone that wasnt that great... i wouldve loved to see some amazing kills and deaths. oh well. At least it still looks like Halo lol

Meh. Like previously stated, final kill cams would be okay, but having one after every death would just tick me off. Using stealth would be pointless, might as well charge in. And dont tell me that camping would go away, play one round of CoD and tell me that kill cams got rid of camping. I just hope that these kill cams dont turn too many people away. 343's boldness is def. pushing some ppl away.

I agree. The elites are a huge part of the Halo series. the odds of them being completely taken out are extremely slim if not non-existent. it wouldnt make any since to have something that played a huge role in previous installments to suddenly be removed permanently. Hopefully elites are implemented in some new more interesting ways in the future.

whatever floats your boat man.

yeah, but i dont run around using the term "we" to describe spartans, like i am one of them. and i think i understand perfectly, you are lost in a little world of canon and games. Its cool to like playing as elites, i actually enjoy playing as them more, especially in reach, because they have cooler assassinations. But you are defending them to a point of almost worship. i am not being hypocritical, because i do not defend spartans as heavily as you do elites. I never said that spartans are better or cooler than elites, elites are actually much cooler than spartans (imo). I am a big fan of Halo, i find the games to be fun and challenging, but thats just it. Its a game. And i feel like you are taking the game and the canon to seriously. Your devotion is more of an obsession. I hope that elites can make it in as many areas of H4 as possible, as i know you do as well. But nonetheless, H4 will be a great game, even if elites arent in multiplayer. Just dont fall so far into the canon and fiction that you begin to believe it exists okay?

Do you just get up and wear an elite outfit all day? Do you just dress up as an elite. You are literally calling yourself a sanghelli. Really? What the heck man. You are one messed up dude. There's being a fan, and then there's being obsessed. You sir, fall into the latter. maybe you should go do something else for awhile, just to get your priorities straight. No, that last comment is not to be rude or mean, i am genuinely concerned for you. I do hope that you realize that halo is just a game, and that you will be able to straighten out your life so that it has purpose. Good luck good sir.

And yet again another thread has been born for people to vent about their not being elites in the multiplayer. As for the training, Im pretty sure no armed force sends a soldier out with a gun against their enemy and say "Good luck, you'll learn it as you go... hopefully". They have at least some training before combat, so spartan vs spartan training simulations makes sense. Also, this is a community forum, therefore differences in opinions are supposed to be encouraged, for it shows differing beliefs and forum diversity. If every felt the same, there would be no need for a forum like this. It's great that we all can debate about this, but honestly, there are a many threads over this exact kind of speculation, so lets try to group it all together by searching for these threads before posting a new one. I stopped using this forum for awhile because all that i ever saw on the front page was people raging about no elites. while thats mostly gone now, i see it isnt completely gone from the front The only thing i hope is that 343 will not stray from their intended course to please some of the community. Bioware did that with Mass Effect 3 with creating a new ending for the game, but i believe that 343 takes enough pride in their work to not be swayed because of a few disgruntled fans. Be strong 343, be strong. As for you Fal ' whatever, you are being quite irritating. You seem to show up anywhere elites are mentioned and are hell-bent on making sure everyone knows how you think that elites are superior and that you are more than upset at their removal from multiplayer. If you wish to comment, please keep it respectful. Calling someone's comment stupid is the farthest thing from respect, that is what is called "rude".

... Well i guess this picture is... AWESOME!!!!!

Lets just agree to disagree. i dont feel this argument going anywhere anytime soon. I wish the elites were in multiplayer, but they arent. and i am also sorry that you do not get to enjoy playing as them anymore. hopefully Halo wont lose too much of its fan base because of this.

I know spartans arent real, because its just a game. i dont see how my statement made me a hypocrite. If anyone here is a hypocrite, its you Fal ' Taralumee. You just judged two people on being closed minded even though you refused to accept Halo 1's multiplayer as legit because it was only a 4 player thing. Btw, did you get it for the computer? Because that had 16 player modes with no elites. Listen, I am disappointed that elites are not going to be in Halo 4, but thats not a reason to start panicking. if the elites not being in Halo 4 is hitting you this hard, then you need to take the game less seriously. I hope you won't be so close minded as to not by Halo 4 just because it doesnt have elites.

And would you please stop being so defensive? the elites dont have feelings cause they ARENT REAL. and im sorry if someone said something to offend you, but this debate has got to end. FYI, I dont think any clan is good. I feel like it just gives kids an excuse to keep playing games instead of focusing on more important things.

Youre not going to play H4 because of no elites? Really? Oh god forbid you try the game first before striking it down. So the elites arent in H4 multiplayer, is that really such a big deal? The entire game must be ruined because something as insignificant as a player skin was taken out of the game. Dont get me wrong, the elites are fun to play as, and in Reach they have the best (imo) assassinations, but they arent important enough for me to not play Halo 4. And about people delving deep into elite "religion and beliefs", what the heck. They aren't real, and the back story for them was made up in the canon. Its all FICTION, if you devoted more than a few hours reading about the lives of the elites, then you are wasting time. The books are fun to read, but shouldnt be studied like archaeologists over a new ruin. Why dont we all just try the game, play it for fun (since it is a game), and get over the fact that a character (who is still in the campaign and possibly other modes) wont be available in multiplayer.

And now i must resist the urge to bash my head against a wall to retain the excitement... failing... failing... FAILING!!! *SMASH!* Owww.....

I think it will be awkward at first, and some people will get frustrating. But it does seem like an idea that could very easily just integrate into the gameplay and then we'll look back at old Halo games and ask "Wait, it DOESNT tell you where the power weapons spawn?!" I think it'll just take getting used to.

I've thought about an ability where you create a huge flash of light that blinds players relative to their distance from you. The only way to make it fair though is if it partially blinds you as well, though not as much as someone right next to you. Example: Lets say someone is rushing you with a sword. you quickly acivate your aa (i'll call it "nova" for the rest of this) nova to blind them. You are partially blinded but know you need to move out of the way. The sword guy is now blind and will blindly swing his sword in the initial direction, opening you to either counter or run. Of course the sword guy could simply spin in circles as he starts to regain his eyesight, but this should give you ample time to at least start shooting him or run. So, what do you guys think about "nova"? I would also like to point out that you were upset at the thought of Halo copying another game's feature (CoD hacker) but then you were perfectly fine with Halo using something similar to BF3. I've said this somewhere else, but all games have similar features. its impossible to avoid similarities throughout games, especiallyin today's market.

sorry, didnt realize. i'll make sure to search from now on

Well i just got the new issue of GI, and it confirmed about every leak and rumor. For starters: --- Customizable Classes: As you play the multiplayer, you will earn Spartan Points, which can be used to purchase new weapons and abilities for your classes. --- Random Weapon Spawns: Yep, power weapons will now spawn randomly around the map. --- Spartan Ops: There is a new mode now that operates similar to spec ops in CoD, except Spartan Ops releases five new missions every week. No, this is not DLC, it is a free addition that you get with purchasing the game. 343i will keep releasing new missions to keep gamers coming back. --- Returning AA's: These abilities will be making a return: hologram, active camo, jetpack, and a new one, forunner vision. Sprint is no longer an ability, you can use it whenever. --- No Elites in Multiplayer: Sadly (imo) the Elites will not be returning in H4's multiplayer. They will however appear in the campaign (which brings me to the next topic...) Campaign --- Some people in GI got a campaign demo, and from what i read, it sounds like a great start. --- You start aboard the Forward Unto Dawn (obviously) as you are being boarded by an "unknown threat". After getting up and ready to go, Chief grabs Cortana as she tells him to move up to the observation deck to see who is attacking them. --- As you follow your waypoint, the door to the elevator is sealed. Chief decides not to find an alternate route, and rips open the door. Unfortunately, the shaft was decompressed and Chief gets sucked into the shaft and quickly grabs ahold of some rungs. Now, it appears cinematic, but you actually still control Chief. You make him climb the rungs, he doesnt do it on his own. once up at the top, he gets a bit of a surprise. --- After Chief gets to the top and starts forward, an elite (in crude armor) charges him with an energy sword. Chief quickly grabs the elites arm as Cortana shouts a warning, and then Chief flings the Elite down the elevator shaft. --- As Chief moves up to the observation deck, he engages in the first firefight of the game. Pretty typical, grunts running around with Elites leading them. After making it up to the observation deck, Chief sees a fleet of Covenant ships and the planet Requiem. It is similar to a shield world, only it is a planet built around another planet. This was done to protect the inner planet from the effects of the Halos, almost like a fallout shelter (only bigger). And that is a basic overview of the GI issue. Hope it was informative!

Sounds cool, but im not sure how it would all string together. like how are you going to mark the path for it to travel?

Im tired of all this stupid hate going around. Don't like whats being done? Get over it or move on to another game. It's really frustrating everytime i get on this forum, i see about 10 hate threads with 1 poll mixed in. Who cares about skill? Who cares about mlg? This is what i think about MLG players. Play the game for fun, not to win. A lot less hate and stress that way.

I find it hilarious when people get on these forums and start raging about skill. Why? Why does it matter? I'll be honest, im not a competitive player, but ive been told before that i have a good k/d and that i play well. I dont try to, i just have fun with the game. I do things i think would be awesome if it works, or do things that are just stupid fun. I've played H1, H3, and Reach ( i unfortunately missed the boat on H2). Why do people insist on playing a game to try to be the best? Sure sometimes i get a little competitive, but i always try to have the most fun possible with a game. Taking everything so seriously only sets yourself up for frustration and rage qutitting. I hate to be this guy, but a game is just a game. It was designed for you to have fun. And before this is used against me, i know there are tournaments for games, and that people can win prize money, but the intended purpose of video games is to have fun. Halo is one of the funnest games i have ever played, but when ppl start talking MLG to me or about skill, it does nothing but make me laugh at the fact that thats what these ppl have to be good at to feel like winners. (I'm not singling anyone out with this comment btw.)

I agree. More people would play if the game was better. Though better is a relative term. "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder". Its all relative to the person playing.

yeah they are. there was some info leaked out of the next Game Informer I believe that said that 343i is not bringing firefight back in Halo 4. They are cutting it out and im guessing Spartan Ops is supposed to be its replacement.

I honestly think that they were planning to completely remove elites. Reach might have been a slow transition to that by limiting the elite armor you could wear, making them less appealing to play. Even though covenant are confirmed to be in the campaign, i guess no elites in multiplayer.

I just noticed this post. I would like to point out what you said in your first post and how it contradicts with your argument to my post. Can you see why i assumed you didnt play CoD now? Also, They have always had similarities. There are more differences than similarities, but the similarities are still there.

You know what? those who think Halo 4 is going to suck, just dont buy the game. dont even worry about it, why stress yourself over something you cant change. Everyone has a viewpoint on what the game should be like, but one thing we should all remember is that we are not the only gaming generation. This could be the first step in appealing to the next target audience. Sometimes you just gotta accept the cards your dealt with, even if some view it as a crappy hand. I have my issues with some of the things being presented sure, but I'm willing to at least try the game before I judge it. You know that time your mom had you try some food that you thought you would hate but it turned out that you liked it? I feel like this is happening right now. Just because the ideas sound crazy, doesnt mean they wont stream together well with the series.