Baeztoberfest Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Just thought some attention to detail on 343i's detail from this weapon similarity perspective could be fun to discuss. Energy Sword = Promethean Knight Sword Arm Plasma Launcher = Incineration Cannon Covenant Carbine = Light Rifle Plasma Rifle = Suppresor Plasma Pistol = Boltshot (To an extent...) One thing that wasn't really clear to me was needle weaponry. Where does that similarity fit in? What needle like weapons do Prometheans have? Also on the last mission MIDNIGHT, where the have that collection of interspecies weaponry they are studying there was a Brute Hammer there. Hammer was Tartarus's weapon of choice. Brute Plasma Rifle was fizzled out a long time ago... Why not study more Brute weaponry? Do the Brutes only have five weapons? (Used in game)? Spiker Plasma Rifle Hammer Brute Shot Mauler Just thought this was a good discussion to see what Covenant weapons mirrored the Forerunner weapons. And how Brute weapons play into this if at all. Edit : Yes I know the Fist Of Rukt was Tartarus's weapon but its basically a Gravity Hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNasalKnight Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 The reason why the Covenant were so advanced was because they discovered Forerunner artifacts and weapons. So they probably found Promethean weapons and designed theirs to be similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Initiate Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 The variation in covenant weaponry is due to the multiple races which make up the Covenant. They did find forerunner artifacts and such, but they also have their own technology. There is plenty of information about this stuff available, it's mostly for people who are interested in the background of the Halo universe. I can break down some of it though. Fuel Rod: Cannon Carbine Supercombine: Needler Needle Rifle Plasma: Rifle Pistol Hardlight: Energy Sword Portable shield cover things I think the Beam Rifle I don't remember which technologies each race brought to the table (Jackals, Grunts, Elites, Hunters, and Drones are all separate species), and I imagine there is some disagreement between the novels and the games, just like there are inconsistencies in comic books and star wars stuff. Popular franchises tend to grow a lot of background information which frequently ends up contradictory because all of it is basically fan fiction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaulting♥Frog Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Because the Brutes were technologically inferior to the Elites, hense more primitive weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko 'Zarhamee Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Hardlight: Energy Sword Portable shield cover things I think the Beam Rifle Actually, none of the Covenant weapons use hardlight. The energy sword is plasma encased in a shield. The jackal shields are just shields. The beam rifle fires some kind of projectile. the covenant weapons are similar to promethean ones because covenant created almost all of their technologies by reverse-engineering forerunner technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baeztoberfest Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Actually, none of the Covenant weapons use hardlight. The energy sword is plasma encased in a shield. The jackal shields are just shields. The beam rifle fires some kind of projectile. the covenant weapons are similar to promethean ones because covenant created almost all of their technologies by reverse-engineering forerunner technology. Reverse engineering? What does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNasalKnight Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Reverse engineering? What does that mean? For example, finding a car, taking it apart to find out how it works and then putting it back together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 yes as covie found forunner techolgy and reaversed enginered it to make covie wepons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A71william Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Plasma Pistol and the Boltshot both can be overcharged. Covenant and Promethean weaponary have some sort of power supplies. I'm guessing that the ammo you put into a Supressor for example is a bttery much like a Plasma Rifle's battery... The Covenant probably couldn't make Hardlight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baeztoberfest Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Plasma Pistol and the Boltshot both can be overcharged. Covenant and Promethean weaponary have some sort of power supplies. I'm guessing that the ammo you put into a Supressor for example is a bttery much like a Plasma Rifle's battery... The Covenant probably couldn't make Hardlight... Lol. Covie fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic Vortex Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Well I agree with most of this but, the Needler was built before the studied Forerunner Weaponry. Most weapons are similar to Forerunner, but with the Plasma Pistol-Boltshot, no 343 just needed to make a Forerunner sidearm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko 'Zarhamee Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Well I agree with most of this but, the Needler was built before the studied Forerunner Weaponry. Most weapons are similar to Forerunner, but with the Plasma Pistol-Boltshot, no 343 just needed to make a Forerunner sidearm. The weapons are too similar for it to be a coincidence. They both have relatively weak single-shot modes. They both can be charged and their charged shot uses more ammo than their single-shot mode. The charged shot is also significantly stronger than the single-shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Oracle Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 From what i have seen and read they are a very primitive form of forerunner type weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l Xenoes l Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I would like to see the UNSC do what the covenant did with the Prometheans weapons. Take a look at their weaponry and make something similar to it. Although I doubt they could mainly seeing as the UNSC already has a weapon to go along with all the Promethean type weapons. They both have a heavy ordnance, shotgun, precision, side arm, and AR type weapon. The only thing neither side has is a melee type weapon. I would like the UNSC to develop some type of melee weapon. Or have the prometheans create more weapons. I would like to see the Brute's weapons to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GruntChieftain Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I would like to see the UNSC do what the covenant did with the Prometheans weapons. Take a look at their weaponry and make something similar to it. The UNSC copied the Covenant a bit. Thats how they got the sticky detonator, and the shields for Spartans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baeztoberfest Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 The UNSC copied the Covenant a bit. Thats how they got the sticky detonator, and the shields for Spartans. Wait where does it say this? Did I miss something? I don't remember this being explained at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l Xenoes l Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 The shields yes but, I don't see how the sticky detonator is from any type of Covenant tech. And I was talking about the UNSC reverse engineering the Prometheans tech to create similar weaponry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Treason Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I think the covies based their tech off of forerunner tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baeztoberfest Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I think the covies based their tech off of forerunner tech. They did. They already said that they did. Can't remember where but... Anyone know where? I could swear that they said they did though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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