drednot12345678 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Me and my friends love big team battle heavies its our new fav and so do a lot of people but the bonus points need to be taken off its not far for both teams when Evey time someone gets a head shot, beat down, assassination, spatter or a sticky kill they get an undeserved point if 343 doing this because its up to 200 kills and their is not enough time then just put like 20 or 30 more minutes in don't give us kills we didn't get because we want to see how many kills we got not how many kills points we got. 1 kill point for one kill thats how it needs to stay not two kill points for one its just not halo plz rate so that 343 will keep heavies in BTB but take out bonus points and make it fare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carts Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I didnt get the chance to play it yet so I dont know the general tendancy of players and what they prefer doing. However,I know the added points were added so foot soldiers had a chance to earn points for the team, against the large amout of vehicles and power weapons that could potentially earn more kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drednot12345678 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 carts it dos not matter the foot solders are getting kills that they don't deserve and its messing with everyones real K/D score and foot solders can easily take down any of the enemy vehicles with the heavy weapons scattered in the maps what 343 should have down is put a copy of BTB heavies with no bonus and a copy with bonus to see what ppl would like but no they force this horrible plague of bonus points i mean i cant even fight as i could before because i am a real gamer and i want to get the kill points i deserve and not be babied by 343 so they need to take out the bonus points keep heavies in but take out the bonus points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drednot12345678 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 carts it dos not matter the foot solders are getting kills that they don't deserve and its messing with everyones real K/D score and foot solders can easily take down any of the enemy vehicles with the heavy weapons scattered in the maps what 343 should have down is put a copy of BTB heavies with no bonus and a copy with bonus to see what ppl would like but no they force this horrible plague of bonus points i mean i cant even fight as i could before because i am a real gamer and i want to get the kill points i deserve and not be babied by 343 so they need to take out the bonus points keep heavies in but take out the bonus points i cant play in a game i get undeserved points in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandiBunni Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 i cant play in a game i get undeserved points in You do deserve the points. You deserve the points because they purposefully added bonuses for doing certain things. If they had not done so, and you were getting extra points, then you would be getting undeserved points. The extra points are rewards for completing certain "tasks". If you get a bonus point for a headshot or assassination, that should be incentive to go out and try to get more of those. They give you bonus points for doing certain things because they want to reward you. They want to reward you more if you land a headshot, sneak up on someone and assassinate them, or manage to stick someone with a plasma grenade. Points help your team win, and doing things that give bonus points is being a good teammate. If you dislike it because of the bonus points, you can simply play regular "Big Team Battle". If you want to play "Big Team Heavies", you need to learn to accept and play by what rules they've set up. If you really dislike it so much, please head over to the official Halo Waypoint forums and create a topic about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkellogg Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I agree the extra points is just STUPID.It ruined that mode for me which is sad Oh and to Peacefull reflection-getting headshots and assassinate someone is its own reward,because guess what!You killed them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woops9 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Agreed the bonus points ruin that mode,and it needs normal movement speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drednot12345678 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 You do deserve the points. You deserve the points because they purposefully added bonuses for doing certain things. If they had not done so, and you were getting extra points, then you would be getting undeserved points. The extra points are rewards for completing certain "tasks". If you get a bonus point for a headshot or assassination, that should be incentive to go out and try to get more of those. They give you bonus points for doing certain things because they want to reward you. They want to reward you more if you land a headshot, sneak up on someone and assassinate them, or manage to stick someone with a plasma grenade. Points help your team win, and doing things that give bonus points is being a good teammate. If you dislike it because of the bonus points, you can simply play regular "Big Team Battle". If you want to play "Big Team Heavies", you need to learn to accept and play by what rules they've set up. If you really dislike it so much, please head over to the official Halo Waypoint forums and create a topic about it. no we don't deserve bonus points the teams can earn these points the real way heavies is great but the bonus is killing it why could'ent they of point the bonus points in something else like campaign i mean i want to know how many kills i got thats what i thought the score bored was showing and thats what it should be showing reach never had bonus points because reach is a real game bonus points are something that game makes put in games for 8 and 10 year olds to make them feel good about them selfs reach is not for little kids, real gamers do not need to feel good about how many points they got they need to feel good about how many kills they got and im still trying to find out if thos stupid bonus points actually go in my K/D cus if they do then im not going to be able to play heavies anymore and thats like all i want to play so that suck why cant they just reward us with that sweat, sweat medal that we get when ever we get a head shot, beat down, assassination , spatter or a sticky and the "ONE" kill point we should be getting not two, your not killing two people with one beat down. So keep heavies in its perfect i have yet to find any other problem with it the bonus points are the only one i can find show 343 if your reading this then just take out bonus points and the heavies will be perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drednot12345678 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I agree the extra points is just STUPID.It ruined that mode for me which is sad Oh and to Peacefull reflection-getting headshots and assassinate someone is its own reward,because guess what!You killed them! damn straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaxx Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 i dont like the extra points, but im not going to complain about it, changes nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unease Peanut Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Didn't even notice the bonus points XD but yeah if so please take it out but overall I like the gametype a lot but please make it a seperate playlist because not everybody likes to play it everytime they want to play BTB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumpa Warrior Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 -drednot12345678 I have yet to see a legitimate argument besides "I don't like it!" This argument about "real gamers" is invalid. Who are you to say what real gamers are? Just because everyone in your clan from your elementary school agrees, does not make the whole world agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Boo Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 You need bonus points so you can get the 200 points that's needed to win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Dog Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 -drednot12345678 ............. your clan from your elementary school agrees........ Come on Wumpa, there is no need for this. I know you can get your point across without the personal shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumpa Warrior Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Come on Wumpa, there is no need for this. I know you can get your point across without the personal shots. Sigh.. Sorry was having a crappy morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdieJuice Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 this thread leads me to believe that all of you are terrible with the DMR and getting headshots. otherwise you wouldn't be complaining about extra points. Let me explain this to you from someone who solely runs around with a DMR in heavies. I absolutely deserve an extra point for a kill if i get a headshot. when i'm getting buttfvcked by a revenant, a falcon, a wraith, a rockethog, dudes with rockets and snipers and grenade launchers. even getting one kill by headshot is impressive considering what is going on around you. However on the map asphalt headshots probably shouldn't be worth an extra point since that map isn't as vehicle oriented. and you can walk around on the second level and wreck with a DMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkellogg Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 this thread leads me to believe that all of you are terrible with the DMR and getting headshots. otherwise you wouldn't be complaining about extra points. Let me explain this to you from someone who solely runs around with a DMR in heavies. I absolutely deserve an extra point for a kill if i get a headshot. when i'm getting buttfvcked by a revenant, a falcon, a wraith, a rockethog, dudes with rockets and snipers and grenade launchers. even getting one kill by headshot is impressive considering what is going on around you. However on the map asphalt headshots probably shouldn't be worth an extra point since that map isn't as vehicle oriented. and you can walk around on the second level and wreck with a DMR. I only use the dmr and I dont think you should get any extra points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Boo Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Yeah on every map for heavies I use my DMR. I get 25-35 points a game on heavies usually with my DMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drednot12345678 Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 ok im not part of some stupid little clan, 343 just needs to put more time in heavies not give us a kill we didn't deserve and if you think you should get a point for nothing then maybe we should get a kill points for Evey shot that is fired then the heavies games would be over in a few seconds and you 3 year olds can go take a nap. halo its either you can play halo good like me and get the one kill point for the one kill you got or your a bad gamer and you should go try cod that game really likes making gamers feel good about them selfs cos in that game you get 100 points for one kill so y don't you go play that game instead of poisoning 343 thoughts with this " no bonus points are cool cus i cant play the game worth shi* so i need a second point to feel good about my self". What im saying here may not be nice and know i don't give i shi* about the feeling of the people that im hurting because i care about this game and i don't even know if i can call this halo any more this is a tough game were you have to work for your kills and if you think you deserve a bonus point for killing one guy/girl then you obviously don't care about it. I'm not mad at 343 their still learning how ppl (real gamers that don't need bonus points and don't puss* out of a fight with armor lock) want this game to be an honest mistake they can fix the bonus next up date 343 i know you have what it takes to make this game great please don't listen to these people take off bonus points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lᴜᴋᴇ Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 ok im not part of some stupid little clan, 343 just needs to put more time in heavies not give us a kill we didn't deserve and if you think you should get a point for nothing then maybe we should get a kill points for Evey shot that is fired then the heavies games would be over in a few seconds and you 3 year olds can go take a nap. halo its either you can play halo good like me and get the one kill point for the one kill you got or your a bad gamer and you should go try cod that game really likes making gamers feel good about them selfs cos in that game you get 100 points for one kill so y don't you go play that game instead of poisoning 343 thoughts with this " no bonus points are cool cus i cant play the game worth shi* so i need a second point to feel good about my self". What im saying here may not be nice and know i don't give i shi* about the feeling of the people that im hurting because i care about this game and i don't even know if i can call this halo any more this is a tough game were you have to work for your kills and if you think you deserve a bonus point for killing one guy/girl then you obviously don't care about it. I'm not mad at 343 their still learning how ppl (real gamers that don't need bonus points and don't puss* out of a fight with armor lock) want this game to be an honest mistake they can fix the bonus next up date 343 i know you have what it takes to make this game great please don't listen to these people take off bonus points. The point is that you do deserve them for doing certain things. Getting a headshot, stick, assassination requires extra skill and that skill is being rewarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Tyrael Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 If someone is vsing a vehicle, they deserve that extra point, look at all the vehicles, power weapons you name it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drednot12345678 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 The point is that you do deserve them for doing certain things. Getting a headshot, stick, assassination requires extra skill and that skill is being rewarded. im getting sick of this, getting any kind of kill should give you only one kill thats why we get medals and should not be getting not bonus points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAVEMANcr Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 The extra points are there to even out the game. if someone doesn't like using vehicles then they don't have to inorder to stay competitive. Also if you want to know how many kills you get, look at the post game stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutelant Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I think they should take out the "bonus points". I was actually punished for using a vehicle to get kills. I got 41 kills in a game, but only got 30 points. The whole point of Heavies is that it is vehicle focused. Therefore you can expect people to use vehicles. It's just like Halo 3 when they filled all the Heavies maps with so many anti-vehicle weapons, there really wasn't any point in getting in a vehicle. Back then, it was suicide. Now, you're just not going to get credit for your kills. 343 is going to lower the winning points from 200 to 150, because they saw enough games where people weren't getting enough points in the time limit. I think they should remove the bonus points at the same time. Thye are NOT needed for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drednot12345678 Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 it dos not matter the post game stats get messed up by it too, it would just by better if you toke of the bonus point and added 10-15 extra minutes the games are short as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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