Wam Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 I don't understand how committing suicide is "going out with style". If anything Caboose should take the votes and die like a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Make_Big_Boom Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 So you think that after being caught in a vote going against you, asking for suicide is perfectly acceptable? I think it is a cheap way to avoid the opposing team from accomplishing something that they successfully did. You'd rather ask for a suicide than to actually try to persuade the vote? There was no attempt to divert the vote, instead they looked for a suicide to blank the opposition. Here is how it appears: -Suspect List goes Live -People vote against Caboose. -Caboose sees there is no time left and doesn't want to be voted out by the "enemies". -Caboose requests a suicide because he doesn't want to be killed by a vote from pro-town. That, to me, does not appear to be going out with style. That appears to be someone not like that the game is not playing in their favor, so they take their anticipated elimination into their own hands... and by committing suicide after the votes were decided, I think that it dismisses the fact that Pro-Town did something right and was a cheap way out. I'm not mad or anything, just disappointed that someone would want to play that way as it is not being courteous or in good spirit, even when you are not losing. To me, that shows unsportsmanlike conduct... but that is just my opinion and I'll leave it at that. If it were me I'd be questioning the reasoning behind the majority suddenly sticking with, and picking 1 person out of 4 when there's no information on any of them: at least information that's explicitly stated before I said it's rrhunt or Caboose later on. Did anyone ask who to kill? No. They chose Caboose. Did the votes change when I said it's either rrhunt or Caboose? No. They still chose Caboose. I wasn't in the position to tell everyone to NOT vote for him. Even if he protested more, or tried to show us fabricated proof I doubt it would've changed the outcome. However something I think that COULD have made a difference would be the other Mafians or sympathizers attempting to save their comrade. Yoshi flat out voted to kill Caboose, and the other Mafian we knew of who was alive did the same thing. Their reason to vote for rrhunt would've needed to be substantial to prove to me and the voters that he was the culprit. I on the other hand had ironclad evidence behind the lines that it was indeed Caboose or rrhunt. To me it did not matter who died: the other person goes on to be the actual villain that we kill later. I only would've stepped in if they provided proof that contradicts what we've gathered so far. But it seems they had no intention of saving him. It could be a part of their plan. I don't know. Ask them yourself since you're the Neutral. Now onto the point that matters most: He's Mafian. Isn't it the goal of Mafia to sabotage any and all action pushed by Protown? Him committing suicide still gives the same result, so I don't understand why that would be undermining what we've done. At the end of the day a dead Mafian is a good Mafian. Besides, we troll each other all the time. Plus we're here to have fun, and trolling is the best kind of fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCPO Mayh3m Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 If it were me I'd be questioning the reasoning behind the majority suddenly sticking with, and picking 1 person out of 4 when there's no information on any of them: at least information that's explicitly stated before I said it's rrhunt or Caboose later on. Did anyone ask who to kill? No. They chose Caboose. Did the votes change when I said it's either rrhunt or Caboose? No. They still chose Caboose. I wasn't in the position to tell everyone to NOT vote for him. Even if he protested more, or tried to show us fabricated proof I doubt it would've changed the outcome. However something I think that COULD have made a difference would be the other Mafians or sympathizers attempting to save their comrade. Yoshi flat out voted to kill Caboose, and the other Mafian we knew of who was alive did the same thing. Their reason to vote for rrhunt would've needed to be substantial to prove to me and the voters that he was the culprit. I on the other hand had ironclad evidence behind the lines that it was indeed Caboose or rrhunt. To me it did not matter who died: the other person goes on to be the actual villain that we kill later. I only would've stepped in if they provided proof that contradicts what we've gathered so far. But it seems they had no intention of saving him. It could be a part of their plan. I don't know. Ask them yourself since you're the Neutral. Now onto the point that matters most: He's Mafian. Isn't it the goal of Mafia to sabotage any and all action pushed by Protown? Him committing suicide still gives the same result, so I don't understand why that would be undermining what we've done. At the end of the day a dead Mafian is a good Mafian. Besides, we troll each other all the time. Plus we're here to have fun, and trolling is the best kind of fun. I see where you are coming from. It could be just another case of pile voting, but who knows. I still believe that what Caboose attempted to do was uncalled for and while it did not alter the result, it did (in a sense) slap the game in the face by undermining a core part of the game (the voting process). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I see where you are coming from. It could be just another case of pile voting, but who knows. I still believe that what Caboose attempted to do was uncalled for and while it did not alter the result, it did (in a sense) slap the game in the face by undermining a core part of the game (the voting process). Not really, I don't think Yoshi and the others mind me saying this but it was decided they were going to vote me out and with everyone else in Pro town gunning for me despite no evidence.... I was going to die anyway so I may as well slap the voting process in the face and die in style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi1176 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well had there been a chance of you surviving I wouldn't have voted for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depressant Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Just take the death Caboose. No one else whined when they got lynched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BATMAN Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 'kay, I'm done reading this argument, haven't we all figured out that Caboose is a couple of pages behind the rest of us? Let him have the death "in style," let's just move on already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Just take the death Caboose. No one else whined when they got lynched Why is this even a thing? I'm not even whining about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Day 5: Night Scene Simple Soul, Civilian was pushed off the building resulting in him dying from impact. He couldn't survive the fall. Tonight, some idiot panicked and hit the wrong button. Rexy has been set lose. His first victim was BATMAN, Owen, she/he was riding her motorcycle and flipped the bike over Simple Soul's dead body. Resulting in paralysis, and then eaten soon after... By Rexy. Suspect List: Yang Xiao Long Rrhuntington Church Black Wolf Edited October 15, 2015 by Fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BATMAN Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Gah, I knew I shoulda used my power this round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi1176 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I vote Church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Make_Big_Boom Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I vote Yang. Yang Xaio Long is a Mafian Hoodlum. Vote him out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Make_Big_Boom Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzy_Dan Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I vote @ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Make_Big_Boom Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Uh huh, no name of the pm then? Also I'm pretty sure the host can't intentionally help any team. Pro-Town, Mafia, Neutral and Civvy. They cannot help them. It's the Detective PM. And in that same PM he said he was just going to do the exact thing you just said he can't do, but only for Mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I vote Yang. Fishy if there is no confirmation you just don't do anything. Fishy you just ruined the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Make_Big_Boom Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Did you read the ability? Even if they are detected, they are told they are civilian 'No powers other than to kill and can falsely accuse of who let the dinosaur out' ~ Fishy, Mafia 15.0 So I'd like some new evidence into this false claim Um... what. That role description is self explanatory. There's no connection between it, and what we're talking about right now. And the claim isn't false. You were investigated as a Hoodlum. The evidence is clearly there. Also, a Secret Hoodlum AKA the Spy is the only Mafian who shows up as a Tourist. If a Mafian is investigated, and is NOT shown as a Tourist then they're not the Spy. All Mafians being shown as Civilians when investigated defeats the purpose of having a Detective. Edited October 15, 2015 by Health Destruct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Make_Big_Boom Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 No no, that's the exact statement SD. Even if I was the Hoodlum, I would appear as a civilian. That's copied and pasted from the factions section on page one. If you're the Secret Hoodlum, yes. If you're a regular Hoodlum, no. Fishy specifically said you're a Hoodlum, so you're one of the regular ones. Either you're trying to make false facts, or attempting to keep me in an argument loop to confuse me: which is not working. You're a Hoodlum. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshyzburton Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I vote yang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Me vote yang too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wam Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I vote le yangarang. C: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Make_Big_Boom Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Oh... Oops... I got it confused with the actual hoodlum :/ I vote Yang No harm no foul. We'll catch that dern Spy if my name isn't Tan Helsing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BATMAN Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Pretty sure it's safe to vote Yang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wam Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 What if.. We're all spies?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi1176 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Why do you guys think Yang is Mafia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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