Flippant Sol Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 When I was online, playing Match Making in War Games, I noticed that the majority of the players under the rank of SR-15 are using the Battle Rifle. No doubt that they don't know how to save spartan points or choose good weapons. The Battle Rifle has a magazine of 36 bullets, and fires in bursts of three bullets, allowing it to shoot 12 times. It is overpowered in my eyes, and if feels like I only hear two shots being fired per burst. The newbies that are using the Battle Rifle really think that the Battle Rifle is a middle to long ranged weapon, where as in reality, it is a short to medium ranged weapon. I seriously don't see why so many people want to use a weapon that doesn't even resemble the Battle Rifle I used in Halo 2 and Halo 3, rather than using the DMR, which we are familiar with in Halo: Reach. Halo 2's Battle Rifle in comparison to Halo 4's Battle Rifle Halo 3's Battle Rifle in comparison to Halo 4's Battle Rifle Notice how the angle shape on the top is too elevated? It looks like a FAMAS from Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. Notice how similiar they look? Once again, my point is valid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persian Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The DMR requires %100 accurate shots to kill whereas someone who's new to the Halo franchise could be a sloppy shot and still get head-shots with the BR. It's more for the beginners imo or just for the hype that it's back. I personally love the DMR. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippant Sol Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The DMR requires %100 accurate shots to kill whereas someone who's new to the Halo franchise could be a sloppy shot and still get head-shots with the BR. It's more for the beginners imo or just for the hype that it's back. I personally love the DMR. Exactly. The BR is for newbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funk Shun All Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The DMR is better because of faster kill and more accuracy. In my eyes, it's the easier weapon to use. Your post really doesn't make much sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippant Sol Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The DMR is better because of faster kill and more accuracy. In my eyes, it's the easier weapon to use. Your post really doesn't make much sense. The thing is, my older brother is sitting downstairs playing Halo 4 telling all of his friends that the BR is way better than the DMR, based off his experience with solo campaign legendary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funk Shun All Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The thing is, my older brother is sitting downstairs playing Halo 4 telling all of his friends that the BR is way better than the DMR, based off his experience with solo campaign legendary. Based off of my experience so far in the multiplayer, it seems that the DMR, when fired accurately, will beat out a BR when also fired accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo 'Talusee Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The LR I hear is a 4 hit kill when zoomed in but only if your shots hit the head, everything else is like 5 hits or more. Thats op. I've also noticed that the BR cannot compete with the Carbine, the DMR, Or the LR. just my experience however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippant Sol Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The LR I hear is a 4 hit kill when zoomed in but only if your shots hit the head, everything else is like 5 hits or more. Thats op. I've also noticed that the BR cannot compete with the Carbine, the DMR, Or the LR. just my experience however. Pigeon straight about the BR not being able to compete, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murf220 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 So new people starting the game are not aloud to use what ever weapons they like with out people complaining about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemoryDecay Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 I love the BR, because I'm more used to it from Halo 2 and 3. I didn't like Reach or the DMR too much. And the BR is better to use in close range if you end up getting close because of the bullet spread from moving a tad bit. Which is good in close quarters over trying to land every single shot from a DMR or other rifle. BR fights are more fun and interesting. However if you are good enough even in close quarters with the DMR or carbine, then obviously those are good choices in that sense. It's a matter of preference. I like the BR more, even though it gets dominated at mid range by the other rifles. So no, not only noobs use it, I've been playing since the 1st Halo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptQuick Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 There are like 30 other overpowered guns and your complaining about the br? Are you serious? Your mad because people are using a gun you don't like. Your Rant= invalid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippant Sol Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 There are like 30 other overpowered guns and your complaining about the br? Are you serious? Your mad because people are using a gun you don't like. Your Rant= invalid The only part you were correct on, is the suppressor. It has so little accuracy, and so little damage, but yet, it is somehow a good gun. I love the BR, because I'm more used to it from Halo 2 and 3. I didn't like Reach or the DMR too much. And the BR is better to use in close range if you end up getting close because of the bullet spread from moving a tad bit. Which is good in close quarters over trying to land every single shot from a DMR or other rifle. BR fights are more fun and interesting. However if you are good enough even in close quarters with the DMR or carbine, then obviously those are good choices in that sense. It's a matter of preference. I like the BR more, even though it gets dominated at mid range by the other rifles. So no, not only noobs use it, I've been playing since the 1st Halo. Well guess what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indirectscore777 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 What? You can't except that people like things you don't like? Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippant Sol Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 What? You can't except that people like things you don't like? Get over it. It just doesn't appeal to me, and don't bring up hypocrisy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoFlame Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 mid to long range = dmr close to mid = br To me the dmr is basicaly a sniper i use the br unless its a big map ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanderos Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The DMR requires %100 accurate shots to kill whereas someone who's new to the Halo franchise could be a sloppy shot and still get head-shots with the BR. It's more for the beginners imo or just for the hype that it's back. I personally love the DMR. Yeah, it's for people to use who don't know better or who suck. What? You can't except that people like things you don't like? Get over it. How does acceptance (not exceptance ) relate to the OPs post? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Talk Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Yeah, it's for people to use who don't know better or who suck. How does acceptance (not exceptance ) relate to the OPs post? The DMR is OP at long range. Its not that hard to stay far away from someone and spam the trigger as someone is crossing a big map. People do that a lot since there is no recoil on the thing. DMR is more of the standard noobs weapon of choice imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerdude1635 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Halo 4 DMR is a Hit-scan weapon, it is OP and takes practically no skill to use, whilst, the BR on the other hand, isn't hit-scan accurate(Or maybe it is, i haven't noticed) takes some skill.. Also, BR is not a 5SK it's infact a 15SK, 3 bullets per burst... That makes the BR only slightly stronger then the AR.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippant Sol Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Halo 4 DMR is a Hit-scan weapon, it is OP and takes practically no skill to use, whilst, the BR on the other hand, isn't hit-scan accurate(Or maybe it is, i haven't noticed) takes some skill.. Also, BR is not a 5SK it's infact a 15SK, 3 bullets per burst... That makes the BR only slightly stronger then the AR.. How the pigeon is the DMR Overpowered if it does less damage than the BR? The DMR is meant to be the Halo CE pistol remniscent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanderos Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The DMR is OP at long range. Its not that hard to stay far away from someone and spam the trigger as someone is crossing a big map. People do that a lot since there is no recoil on the thing. DMR is more of the standard noobs weapon of choice imo. I wasn't saying whether the BR/DMR was or wasn't easy to use, just that the BR doesn't compare, and people who don't use the DMR usually don't know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerdude1635 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 How the pigeon is the DMR Overpowered if it does less damage than the BR? The DMR is meant to be the Halo CE pistol remniscent. What DMR have you been using? DMR is on the verge of becoming a powerweapon, we do NOT need another CE magnum, oh? and what about all that balance 343 was going on about? DMR pretty much screams "LIAR!!!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a live dinosaur Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Wait... Are you serious? Lmao, just because they are under SR-15 makes them a noob? So since I was once a SR-15, I was a noob? I am SR-42 now, I still use the BR. People who are SR-15 are not all new to Halo, most of them have been Halo fans who know how to use the BR. Then you say it is nooby because it looks like a Famas? Looks are cosmetic, they don't change gameplay. With all due respect, literally ALL of your points are so invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippant Sol Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 You guys are saying that the primary weapons are all doing too much damage, then how are they overpowered? They just all do more damage then they used to, so it is no differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinetiKz Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 The DMR is the only balanced gun in the game in terms of an "Assault Rifle" category'd gun. The Light Rifle, DMR, and Battle Rifle are your 3 weapons of choice that should every be considered. The Light Rifle takes more shots when not scoped in, less when scoped in; get rid of it. The Battle Rifle is more overpowered than the DMR, and here is why: Although they take the same amount of shots, with and without scope, they are not the same. (I realize that the BR is supposed to be better at a short range, and the DMR is supposed to be better at a long range -- which weapon you use for THIS reason should vary on the map, the gametype, and your playstyle I suppose...) But...Here's why... Let's say there are 2 players going into a 1v1 BR/DMR fight. Player 1 is your average Halo player n00b, where as Player 2 is a professional Halo player that is not such a rookie. Both players are using the DMR with standard settings, everything is normal. Player 1 and Player 2 both hit eachother 4 times apiece. Each player is now 1 shot away (in the head) from dying. Player 2, being more skilled, hits the 5th shot in the head, whereas Player 1 hit Player 2 in the shoulder. ^^^In this situation, Player 2 is awarded the kill, as he should be, for having more "skill", and walks away a "weakened-1shot". In the other way around, Player 1 and Player 2 are both using a Battle Rifle. Both players have again hit eachother in the body 4 times, remaining a headshot away from being awarded a kill. On the 5th shot, Player 2 again hits Player 1 in the head; however, this time, Player 1 has (with his 3 bullets, since battle rifle's shoot 3 bullets in comparison to the DMR's 1) has hit Player 2 in the shoulder, the neck, and the shoulder. In this situation, both players are awarded a kill, and a trade occurs. ^^^In this situation, Player 2 and Player 1 are both awarded a kill, but it is not based off of "skill". I know there is not near as much "spray, spread, swiping", whatever you would like to call it, as there was in Halo 3, but nonetheless, there is still a "spread". I realize that none of these guns will be changed in anyway, and I realize also that it's all there for fun and will remain constant, so people's discussions and complaints are irrelevant, but I figured I would throw these facts out there for those who seem to be upset about these DMR/BR/LR discussions. All in all, don't use the Light Rifle, if you're playing a close range map with lots of hallways, use the BR, otherwise use the DMR. Over all, if you can scope in 24/7 [which you shouldn't be able to], use the LR; but the BR is still the best "Assault Rifle" type gun in the game, for the reasons stated above; unfortunately. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funk Shun All Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 How the pigeon is the DMR Overpowered if it does less damage than the BR? The DMR is meant to be the Halo CE pistol remniscent. He said it was stronger than the AR... Learn to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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