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This has been an issue as long as I can remember and that's due to the non regional MM set up that Halo has. With the current set up being all social, that's just the way it's gonna be. I'm curious to see what the skilled lists are going to be like. If it's the same non regional set up as the previous Halos I suspect you won't see much of me. I've been rather enjoying the regional match ups on BO2 and that's what I'll stick with if that's the case.

Yes and I just can't help it. It's lolz time. Especially a triple kill stomp on the warthog. Too funny.

Probably totally unrealistic. With that being said, those are the things that would need to happen to correct the things that were wrong with the 1-50 system to begin with. IMO

it was the same on FF in Reach. Horrible connectivity.

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Ranked playlists are for serious minded folks and frankly folks who aren't in it to win have no business mixing in with folks who are going tryhard. That's why you should have a difference in the playlist of social and ranked. I've been in competitve sports all my life. I don't even begin to understand folks who don't play to win. If they're not playing to win, I don't want, and will not accept them on my team given a choice. Period. I do not enjoy and in fact RESENT them being forced on me in the play lists. They are an enigma to me. That being said, they have their place and it's not in ranked playlists.

Dedicated servers don't solve it. I play BO2 on STEAM sometimes and the lag is worse than ever due to my distance to the servers. There's simply not enough to go around.

I misunderstood your post. My mistake Yeah, they're decidedly wrong if that's their mindset. I've got pro players from other games on my list and a couple of semi pro for Halo and they don't think like that at all. There's some folks that specialize in lists like snipers and Swat that even the pros don't wanna mess with lol. Yaboy, Red in snipes just to name 2 off the top of my head. AO iz Back and Sidewayz Shady in swat, Genesis Rider as well in Swat and the MLG kids get smoked when they go against them and they know they're going to. The fact is, most of the MLG folks are seriously all right people. I've talked to them on their chats, run games with them, hell they're fun people by and large. I guess there can be a bad egg or 2 but I hope nothing that has gone so far as to deal a blow to the community even worse than Reach and H4. That would be seriously bad.

The community isn't there due to MLG dood. MLG is a small part of the community and besides, the MLG players didn't do anything wrong. 343 made a seriously broken game in a decidedly poor attempt to mimic the COD series and with an inferior MM matrix. That's why the population is down so much. 343 didn't listen to the players and they reaped what they sowed. Frankly I hope 343 gets fired and MS is forced to contract Bungie back into it at out of your mind salaries.

Any ping over 85 is ridonculous

In all honesty, what I'm looking to see are more enjoyable games. I've lost soooooooo many games in the wonderful 8 country matches that it's insane or even winning is no fun sometimes. You'll have one player that has host and they're from BFE and no one else in the game can do anything but die. It's ridiculous and it simply shouldn't be that way in ranked matches. We already know the US has the best MLG players, that's a fact. No team from another country has even broken the top 16 but twice in the history of MLG. Confining the MM to within the same countries would actually benefit the other teams when they come to play. They tend to think they're better than they are but get spanked handily when the come to play LAN. I've played in local LAN tournies and it's amazing how distorted the gameplay gets online, it's not even remotely close to LAN. In ranked play lists which are supposed to be based on skill, it should be as close as possible to the LAN experience and frankly, that's my basis for this post. I'll definitely agree that your points are valid but in all honesty, that's a short term view of the game IMO. I tend to doubt that an extra $10/month is going to break anyone. If it is, try drinking one less 12 pack or having one less pizza/month.

While I understand your point, in order for a ranked match to be legitimately based on skill, the playing field must be as level as possible. Anyone not meeting those requirements can play social. That way the community doesn't get divided.

While I'm glad to see that after 3 years that 343 is actually deciding to implement a ranking system, I'm curious as to how it will play out. I could be stepping out of line here but I think that there are some things that need to be addressed in order for this to actually be a system that works. 1) De rankers: OK, tell me you didn't hate those friggin bks. Go into a game stoked and 2 out of the 4 on your team are running out into the middle of the biggest widest open space firing shots in the air essentially saying "kill me please!!" Solution: There will be no de ranking. Once you have it, you got it, period. If you can't play to it, tough, you prolly shouldn't have bought it. 2) Terribad connections: Solution part 1: All ranked playlists are to be played within the same country. Anyone setting up their profile to another country in order to play for the lists in another country gets a 6 month console/ip/home ip addy ban. No questions asked. Frankly, I don't know why that's part of the set up, the console will pick up the addy and then the ip addy will tell the console where it's located. Duhhhhhh Solution part 2: You will need to have certain required speeds in order to play the ranked lists. ie: 2 up/ 10 down. Solution part 3: Whoever has host is required to have NO LESS than 5 up. This gets rid of 99.99% of the issues. Dedicated servers are NOT the answer as you still have distance to deal with from the location of that server. It's not a cost thing, it's all about logistics. Opinions please

And that's what the beauty of H3 was, having separate ranked and social lists. Derp No, ranked has been around since H2. Hell, getting a 40 in H2 got you mad props and respect.

YOu don't blame the forger for broken spawns and broken wall heights?? Maybe you haven't played enough games after all. Where's the energy cubes? Where are the holes in the wall to shoot through to BR1? Where's the wall under the ramp on snipe 2/3? Terribad map making. As for infinity slayer, I've already said my peace about it. Until Slayer pro is back, I won't be playing any slayer lists.

Unfortunately, the idiots at 343 didn't go through them and check out the basics. Spawns on Blackout or whatever they're calling it these days are absolutely wrecked and there's a couple of the maps where you spawn outside the map. Yet again, proof that half-assing things is 343's method of operation.

Bloom absolutely was broken. It has been PROVEN several times in testing that unless you had host or were in extremely close proximity to host the bloom began on the 1st shot, that is a huge difference as opposed to the bloom beginning on the 2nd shot as it was advertised.

The ONLY way to save halo is to get it back to what it was. Rather the utmost in competitive shooter games. Get rid of loadouts and AAs, everyone starts out the same. THAT is what seperated halo from the rest back then and is the ONLY thing that will save it now. Don't mean to sound mean here but I'm extremely happy H4 has been dropped from the MLG circuit . Wake up 343 you BKs.

The 1-50 needs to be visible on the playlists as well. Not strictly on 343's tard site. I love how they force folks to go there to look for stats lol. Only reason they have any population at all. Bunch of bad kids with mod.

Good OP!!

Nothing wrong with the DMR. Period. Never has been in this version. At least it's not hella broken like it was in Reach with that broke *** bloom. I do agree that the skill requisites are tons lower mostly due to the back door skill system. Seems as though I either run against high 50s, where I get my butt caved in or against 2s where I'll go 25-2. Idiotic set up.

The OP says it perfectly. I only play Halo on group nights anymore now. Normally you'll find me on BO2 or MW3 and I'm a guy who was generally good for 2 to 3 hundred games/week. Sad.

I think it's an absolute shame and I hate to say it but I absolutely told you so to everyone who thought MLG was gonna keep H4. No way, it's WAYYYY too far off the edge of competitive and wayyyyy too noob friendly. I hated it when Reach came out and I absolutely thought I was going to throw up when I played MP. That derptard move cost them way more $$$$ than they'd ever save. Congrats 343, you truly suck. BTW, this is the nice version of how I really feel.

I miss H2 the most. Gave you the option of split screen top/bottom or side by side. I ALWAYS chose side by side. Seems as though you maintain better depth. As far as the framerate issue goes, they're too dang busy making the maps purty as opposed to concentrating on proper spawns, symmetry and general playability of the maps, equal distance from the map weapons ..... I'm trying to be nice but you can tell that 343 is not about gaming but about the game being pretty. Given the two options, I'd go with more playability and less graphics.

343 has always done that. derp. Sword base ring a bell?