Absolute Dog Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 This is a link to a story regarding XBOX modder Matthew Crippen. It has been delayed after the sitting judge see issues with the defenses case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraverKING514 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I really don't see why they need to make it such a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectral Jester Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 i dont know whether to be shocked its got that far too trial, or be happy they are punishng these people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinreaper Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 It all comes down to one thing, and one thing only...he made a personal prfit from it. Under fair use, we are all entitled to a backup copy of any media we legally buy. That is a federal law. the DMCA contradicts this, and eliminates our federal right to fair use. But, as seen many times in MS EULA's, fair use is allowed. This judge has seen thru an obvious plot within the government to further control and regulate things they have no business regulating. Begs the question, if what this guy did wa soooo bad and wrong, wher eis Microsoft in all this? Why aren't they part of the prosecution against this guy. The answer is simple..... A moddable console will always outsell and fully locked down almost impossible console with no game library. The xbox 360 is a great console adn has great games, and as such, people want to tap into that locked potential. Not to mention that also since the Xbox 360 can be labeled as a media device, we are legally allowed to protect that investment by having a spare backup copy of the software on it that we legally purchased. Weither it be Nand or DVD firmware, it doesn't matter. it is all digital content and fair use acceptable. Furthermore, circumventing the security of a console can be labeled fair use when it is for educational purposes and not personal profit or corporate espionage. In this case, the guy made a profit. I doubt he was modding consoles for free. And also keep in mind that the prosecution is using witnessess that broke the law them selves by performing the same unethical things. Obviously you can't call a serial killer to the witness stand to prosecute another serial killer....this whole thing should have been settled months ago out of court in exchange for the guys help in curbing and icreasing security measures. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGYPTIANGHETTO Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I dont mind modders as long as they dont use their abilities to create an unfair advantage in online play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Dog Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 It all comes down to one thing, and one thing only...he made a personal prfit from it. Under fair use, we are all entitled to a backup copy of any media we legally buy. That is a federal law. the DMCA contradicts this, and eliminates our federal right to fair use. But, as seen many times in MS EULA's, fair use is allowed. This judge has seen thru an obvious plot within the government to further control and regulate things they have no business regulating. Begs the question, if what this guy did wa soooo bad and wrong, wher eis Microsoft in all this? Why aren't they part of the prosecution against this guy. The answer is simple..... A moddable console will always outsell and fully locked down almost impossible console with no game library. The xbox 360 is a great console adn has great games, and as such, people want to tap into that locked potential. Not to mention that also since the Xbox 360 can be labeled as a media device, we are legally allowed to protect that investment by having a spare backup copy of the software on it that we legally purchased. Weither it be Nand or DVD firmware, it doesn't matter. it is all digital content and fair use acceptable. Furthermore, circumventing the security of a console can be labeled fair use when it is for educational purposes and not personal profit or corporate espionage. In this case, the guy made a profit. I doubt he was modding consoles for free. And also keep in mind that the prosecution is using witnessess that broke the law them selves by performing the same unethical things. Obviously you can't call a serial killer to the witness stand to prosecute another serial killer....this whole thing should have been settled months ago out of court in exchange for the guys help in curbing and icreasing security measures. Thanks for the post Twin, it is so true. You were able to follow up with the information in a better way before I could do it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father B Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [lots of information both comprehensive and surprisingly entertaining] So… what do you know about dark matter? Is it a solid, or is it an energy? In theory, could it be harnessed? If it could, what would be the practical applications of its use? But seriously, on topic, I don't see the point in modding a console. If you void the warrantee, you've done something the manufacturer doesn't want you doing. If this guy is being put on trial for it and Microsoft isn't doing anything, all it means to me is: they're letting the government do their dirty work, and, in doing so, saving money. If this thing is a big enough deal to go national and Microsoft isn't doing anything… "Action speaks louder than Words. But, sometimes, Inaction speaks louder than both of them." — Matthew Good, Canadian recording artist and my hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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