Kiing 0f Coffe
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Hope its good.
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They announced that it will be added a week from now
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Bonafide Unwind
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I don't even know what the exact settings are. I tried to download the settings off of Halo waypoint. I tried getting on xbox but there is no player search engine other than friend requests. He had a full friend's list. So how do I get the settings??
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Im enjoying dubs too, but shame its getting switched for team snipers
Wait, they're swaping dubs for snipers? That really stinks. Can they not just keep anything?!?!Im enjoying dubs too, but shame its getting switched for team snipers
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Original Xbox. I had such great memories of playing starwars battlefront 2 when I was young.
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Welcome to our wonderful community. I'm also glad that there is someone else here who enjoys battlefield.
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Can't come, I have a chess competition that weekend.
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So do you edit a multiplayer map then play on it. Or does someone else edit a multiplayer map and you play on it?
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Gravity mace. Not as powerful as the gravity hammer. But can still 1 hit and swings twice as fast. You can also switch to it faster.
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K thanks.
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So far the fire rate nerf is winning.
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There should be some promethean tanks and speaders. That would rock.
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Yes I did and I can't make it stopI'm sorry I looked at that table and saw a bunch of information I already knew and had previously dismissed, some information that I think is actually wrong, and some that doesn't matter or seem existent in-game.
Let's focus on the red:
Starting with the BR, which we know is the runt of the litter, I see it has four red boxes, but one of them it actually shares with the DMR (Error angle) and the other three it gets from its firing mode which we also know isn't that special. The burst fire is the virtual equivalent of NOT putting all your eggs in one basket. If you simply fired a bigger projectile then it would be an advantage because it would be harder to dodge and harder to miss, but instead you fire three which means you can hit with one and miss with the other two. You'll see you've hit your target but for all you know you're 1-2 bullets behind.
So the BR has NO advantages except that it's better at cleaning up one-shots, which is why people use it more in SWAT.
I already knew all that.
Next lets look at the carbine. We see, as we knew, that its primary edge is its fire rate. We sadly also see that it's based on the player, not the gun (As in if the player has a good trigger finger, the carbine is awesome, if they don't, it isn't). So again that gun loses its edge because all of its advantages are dependent on a high-performing player. Remember we're talking about the guns in this thread, not the players using them.
There is a part of the table I don't understand and that's the damage upper bounds maximum and minimum. It shows the carbine is somehow better than the other two, which we know isn't true. You explain it in yellow as the damage the projectile does, but we KNOW that it doesn't do better damage than the other two (Actually it DOES do better damage than the BR's projectiles, but the BR fires 3). So I am failing to understand something relevant about that statistic. We know the carbine takes 7 shots to drop shields while the other two guns take 4, something is missing from that section.
Finally the DMR. We see it chuckling when the BR boasts its one red box of error angle, because the DMR has the same error angle. Next we see it has superior range, we also knew that.
Next I'm confused again, because it has a velocity listed, but we know the weapons are hitscan. It has two big red boxes of "i'm better than you" velocity, but we KNOW that velocity isn't a factor in these weapons. So again I'm missing something.
The DMR's final red box is the error angle maximum, which I suspect is accuracy degeneration/bloom? We see that the DMR is apparently superior even though it doesn't have the lowest number, I'm guessing that's due to the combination with fire rate that makes accuracy degeneration more or less prevalent (A weapon that fires fast will be adding its error angle maximum more times per second... if I'm reading that right).
What I end up seeing here are:
Numbers that don't matter being listed as favorable, like the BR's burst.
Numbers that appear to be wrong, like the BR's shots per second and the carbine's damage.
Numbers that don't exist, like the velocity.
The result is that what little information I can gather from that apparently-flawed table is that the carbine and the BR have irrelevant or non-existent advantages and I'm forced to again recall my experience and the wealth of videos and experiments posted by other people in various places that show the DMR is simply superior.
@Twinreaper: I like your focus on data, and I respect that you're a poster who tries to use facts and such as your guide. However I see a table like that and either I misunderstand the stat (I read your explanations) or I ask myself "Has he even played the game?" I know you've played, and if I remember right you don't intend to play it much more, but one look at something like the carbine's projectile damage would have clued an experienced player in to the fact that something was wrong (Or maybe the player just doesn't understand the stat, like I don't). I don't think that table is accurate/current, or if it is then I don't think the numbers you collected are an accurate representation of what the weapons do in-game.
Even if it IS accurate, I don't think the numbers have been judged correctly, because these three weapons are NOT equivalent in any sense, and I know that. It is exactly as people have been saying it is: The DMR is better than the other two and the carbine loses to the BR because it's the hardest to use. The carbine when used perfectly defeats the BR. We know all that. What I now struggle to understand is what level of removal from the game had to be present for you to look at that table and not see its flaws or its lack of bearing on the game.
@King of Coffe: Did you notice you quote everyone twice?
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Starcraft is an RTS and a very fun one at that. I'd simply like to know if anyone besides me plays it.
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Like I said, I only provide the data. How and why a BR that fires faster and deals more damage according to the tag, is out gunned by the DMR with lesser stats is beyond me. Like is aid...I got thedata...not the reasoning..lmao But yeah, it's gonna be lot harder to land all your projectiles directly on the head during a heated battle with BR than a DMR. The error is lower and you have only one projectile to worry about.
But doesn't it look like the DMR fires faster in game?Like I said, I only provide the data. How and why a BR that fires faster and deals more damage according to the tag, is out gunned by the DMR with lesser stats is beyond me. Like is aid...I got thedata...not the reasoning..lmao But yeah, it's gonna be lot harder to land all your projectiles directly on the head during a heated battle with BR than a DMR. The error is lower and you have only one projectile to worry about.
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Life worker vision. An armor ability when casted on a friendly or enemy player. You get full access to their HUD, but you can't control the player.
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I wasn't trying to illustrate a point. I was mearly just posting up the actual game data for you guys. While i do love the DMR in halo 4, I will always be a BR lover first. Nothing biased or anything from me. Just wanted to give you guys factual info so you can agrue with a more accurate look at the weapons themselves.
But now that you mention it, the BR kills faster as long as every trigger pull is dead on accurate. The DMR makes 3 shots per second, while the BR does 15 (5 x 3-shot bursts) and each full burst of 3 does 1 point more damage. The problem is, it's almost impossible to get all three bursts to land in the same spot. That is why the DMR does the actual "kill" faster. less error to throw the shots.
But I tested it point blank on someones head and I got a 5-shot kill. The DMR has a faster fire rate so the faster five trigger pulls wins. Right?I wasn't trying to illustrate a point. I was mearly just posting up the actual game data for you guys. While i do love the DMR in halo 4, I will always be a BR lover first. Nothing biased or anything from me. Just wanted to give you guys factual info so you can agrue with a more accurate look at the weapons themselves.
But now that you mention it, the BR kills faster as long as every trigger pull is dead on accurate. The DMR makes 3 shots per second, while the BR does 15 (5 x 3-shot bursts) and each full burst of 3 does 1 point more damage. The problem is, it's almost impossible to get all three bursts to land in the same spot. That is why the DMR does the actual "kill" faster. less error to throw the shots.
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Yah, but this is a 2v2. If they camp together then they will be getting all the kills they would be running around and out DMRing people. I'll just leave if it's infinity doubles I hate that garbage.
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If I may, here is the actual data for DMR, battle Rifle and Carbine. This is actual tag data, not guessed of keyframe data that is completely inaccurate.
So once you scan the information, you can clearly see that each has it's own strength and dominates the other in a certain area. To simplify the information further, I can list the jist of it here...
Battle Rifle: Fires the slowest, but fires the most shots per trigger pull, and for the amoun of projectiles it fires, it has resonable error constraints,
Carbine: Though it fires the fastest and deals the most damage, it has the largest error which makes connecting each shot more difficult than the others.
DMR: Medium firing speed, and low error make up for it's lowest damage dealing per shot.
Overall, the BR and DMR are about equal, except for it's massive range boost. Flat out, you can out range an opponent. But up close or before mid-range, the Carbine will eat you alive.
You do know that the DMR kills faster than the BR. So how can they be about =. Even if they did have the same kill time. The DMR is meant for long ranges, and the BR is meant for mid range. How is this fair? Oh yah and thanks for explaining the chart for me. I'm not quite the technology guru you are.If I may, here is the actual data for DMR, battle Rifle and Carbine. This is actual tag data, not guessed of keyframe data that is completely inaccurate.
So once you scan the information, you can clearly see that each has it's own strength and dominates the other in a certain area. To simplify the information further, I can list the jist of it here...
Battle Rifle: Fires the slowest, but fires the most shots per trigger pull, and for the amoun of projectiles it fires, it has resonable error constraints,
Carbine: Though it fires the fastest and deals the most damage, it has the largest error which makes connecting each shot more difficult than the others.
DMR: Medium firing speed, and low error make up for it's lowest damage dealing per shot.
Overall, the BR and DMR are about equal, except for it's massive range boost. Flat out, you can out range an opponent. But up close or before mid-range, the Carbine will eat you alive.
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LOL I can't understand anything in that table can you translate for me plz? Why doesn't the table include damage per round or damage per trigger pull?
Well if that is your position then I wont bother voting on this poll. It is bias and you clearly do not want differing opinions on the subject.
The stats show itself. The only advantage the BR has over the DMR is the fact that it can kill with a shot to the head at 1/8th shielding. Thats it. All the rest the DMR is better. I'm not biased, you and all who know the exact stats are biased. Seriously, this game is not called Halo 4, return of the DMR. No, its halo 4 return of all the guns people liked. Woe is the Carbine user who suffers from under powered weaponry.Well if that is your position then I wont bother voting on this poll. It is bias and you clearly do not want differing opinions on the subject.
Woe to the BR user who suffers to the use of a worse DMR. Woe to the assault rifle user, who's CQB weapon can't touch the DMR at any range. But peace and happiness radiates from the DMR user, who trumps all with his might. He has no worry about a gun being better in its surcumstance. Why would the DMR user want his weapon of triumph to go? To allow fans of other weapons a fair chance? Hah! Most go on there merry way and slap their bias on the thread. Defending their undeniable advantage. To leave the rest scrambling for an advantage, only to be dissapointed when they find none. For all to hail the DMR! King of Primarys. Never will it be dethroned. Defend the DMR! For with our king, we will rule matchmaking! Never shall it be nerfed. Never shall there be buffs. Never shall there be balance. For all must bow to the DMR user.
All until the day. The day few stood up against the outrage. Dared to make threads against the DMR. Waged war against its supporters. That day. Started the road to a balanced kingdom. But the war is still raging. The king isn't easily dethroned. But it may happen. It will happen. When the creators of the kingdom came back to dethrone their poorly chosen king. To then make kings of all of the primarys. This is what I and many others strive for, a balanced kingdom of matchmaking. But for a kingdom to change for the better. We must discuss how the kingdom will be changed.
But for since the first DMR thread. It has bean a verbal war on the DMR's supporters. For almost all want to keep their distinct advantage. We want the Halo 4 we were promissed. You want the Halo 4 your playstyle fits the most. For I still believe that any supporter of the DMR who has full knowledge off statistics, I deem biased. I can't be convinced other wise until changes are made for the better. Why give 3 options when I know I only need 2? DMR supporters. Remember who this game was built for. It wasn't you, it wasn't me. It was for halo fans of all playstyles. The BR guys, the Carbine guys, and yes, the DMR guys. Don't forget the storm rifle guys, the suppressor guys, and the assault rifle spammers. Even for the boltshot spammers, and the hollogramers. But no. The game's current state is only for the DMR guys.
Sorry if I insulted you. Its only the truth.
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Sit back with light rifle and snipe till they all die?
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Those dirt bags.
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So in otherwords you are unable to select an option that states that a player is fine with the DMR as is and is well informed on the subject? Kind of a bias poll...
Ah yes, the reason for this is because there is no humanly way a person can know all there is about the DMR and the BR and think it is balanced without some sort of bias involved. This I assure you. Or someone could be an idiot.So in otherwords you are unable to select an option that states that a player is fine with the DMR as is and is well informed on the subject? Kind of a bias poll...
My opinion i have to explain with a post is,
YOUR A GOD DANG OVERREACTING NOOB!
Nuff' said.
How am I over reacting? Im simply analyzing an imbalance that a lot of people agree with and I'm suggesting a course of action and asking the opinion of others for this course of action. I will probably slap myself if I see one logical post coming out of you.My opinion i have to explain with a post is,
YOUR A GOD DANG OVERREACTING NOOB!
Nuff' said.
Didact Dead or Alive?
in Halo 4
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Something tells me he is too important of an antagonist to die so soon.