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Look out! the HALO "Vets" have come out to play..........

But i do believe if it comes back the BR will have to adopt the bloom system instead of the recoil otherwise the DMR will get totally owned at mid range by BR all day long.

I have no problem with adding bloom to the DMR i thought that was one of the best features of reach. I know allot of people complained about it and said it was inaccurate and added an element of luck and i guess it did a little but that was only when you spammed it. The benefits of it were it could not be spammed and it gave players an extra skill to develop if they wanted to be good and effective with that weapon. So bring it back it feels like we are going backwards without it.

Ahhh yes now we are on the same page. What is happening is there is NO bloom in this game. Don't believe me? go grab your BR and DMR and spam them as fast as you can into a wall. what happens???? well you will see the reticle will "bloom" out but every single bullet will hit the same point... so halo 5 has FAKE bloom. This means someone can spam you as fast as they can from anywhere and you die allot faster. I have been saying this for days now but it seems im fighting a loosing battle because people that played halo 3 are unhappy with bloom because they cant spam their guns. I don't believe the problem is damage, it is just simply the accuracy without bloom. After all the DMR has always been a 5 shot and the BR if i remember correctly was a 4 shot in halo 3???

The DMR does exactly what it did in reach minus the bloom so now its just more accurate so people can now spam it. Yes i do believe the game needs bloom BUT if the DMR gets bloom back so should the BR.

ahhh yes what a fantastic idea lets dull down the DMR a little.... say make it a 6 shot so now the BR you use is a 5 shot........ This totally makes sense and then why we are at it lets just tone down every gun but the BR that way the BR is the best gun in the game!!!! And then all that nostalgia everyone has of thinking they were pawning noobs in halo 3 might come back to them...... (all sarcasm intended)

I know it has it's haters but bring bloom back. It will stop people spamming the trigger on the super accurate DMR and BR. It will keep people alive longer. People that mastered the skill in Halo reach wont feel like it was a waste of time. It will separate the better players from the rest and stop this who ever shoots first wins crap which just promotes camping. At the end of the day a gun cant be so accurate when you are spamming it so why are we going backwards and taking bloom out of the game???

Would some one like to explain why my earlier topic " bloom was bad they said......." Has been locked??? http://www.343industries.org/forum/topic/16906-bloom-was-bad-they-said/

Your whole argument is based off the fact that the bullet placement is random which it isn't. Well it might be for you because you spam the trigger as hard as you can but if you have skill and time your shots it's definitely not random. So you seem to portray yourself as a smart person what would happen in real life if you we're to span a gun like that???? Would every bullet hit the exact same spot like it currently does or does a bloom system make more sense? Please sir keep telling me that spamming a trigger takes more skill then pacing your shots it's amusing

Please tell me how spamming a DMR and BR takes more skill then having to pace your shots so they are more accurate? Please explain because in no way shape or form does that make logical sense.

Did I even play reach..... Why yes I did and a lot and I was good at it and before u get on your almighty I played all the halo games horse yes I have played all of the games for the past 10 years. Now this luck element u speak of yes there was an element of luck but only when you spammed it so there goes that argument for u. Also I want to test your logic... What would happen if you spammed your weapon in a real scenario. Would It be like how it is in halo 4 or halo reach? So who should really be rewarded???

Ok so because a bunch of people can't "get the timing right" the people that were good at it have to suffer being spammed at?

Strafing is not nearly effective as it used to be. It's almost like the bullets are magnetised. Also may I ask what everyone's problem with bloom really was? Because I loved it, it stopped spamming and separated the good players from the bad.

Ok so bloom is now gone from the game... And what do we have??? Firefights that are completely based off who shoots first. Strafing and ducking are nearly completely ineffective in a firefight. It's almost like I have to try to miss a shot. I do believe it took skill to perfect the art of pacing your DMR shots or add a bit of strafing and ducking to your DMR fights. So what separates the players that bothered to get good at these skills from the rest now? Absolutely nothing! I know bloom had its haters but come on for me not having bloom is far worse.

There is not enough power weapons given to take a banshee and mantis out. If you team DMR them u run out of amo because there is none on the map so really it is just very unbalanced.

Please for the love of god take the mantises off Ragnarok CTF it is so overpowered and unbalanced with the banshees it I unplayable. There is no way to kill them and it just all round sucks.

Personally I use the DMR but that is only because I am used to it from playing a lot of reach so I'm more comfortable with it. I am winning allot of close range fights agains a BR but some times I get absolutely shredded by it at close and I did expect that. I think what you are experiencing is people are better with a DMR because they have been using it for 2 years and it is basically unchanged and the BR hasn't been used since halo 3 and it has been changed a little to compensate for the times. On a side note is anyone else finding that it is hard to miss a shot with either gun? It seems strafing and ducking in a firefight are ineffective.

Firstly I'd like to congratulate 343 on a pretty good all round game having said that the biggest thing that is bugging me is how easy it is to shoot a DMR and BR, you simply can't miss! I don't know why this is?? More aim assist? Larger Hit box? It seems strafing and ducking mid firefight don't have any effect and the battles are just purely based off who shoots first wins. What does everyone else think of it?

Well harro!!!