Rafter

Naw, I think they'd just give you biger anti-air weapons for the pelicans, and scarabs well you got me there Scarabs could be really slow and even easier to board, imagine a gametype, where one team needs to protect a scarab and transports it form A to B and another has to destroy it (team with scarab could have a negative handicap) Agreed on most apart from the Scarab. Also the Short Sword is the Bomber, The Long Sword is the Interceptor Also, as said, you missed the Sabre, and the Sparrow Hawk and Spirit Drop Ship All covenant ships would be massively nerfed for Humans to stand a chance. In a 1vs1, A Halcyon or Marathon Class Cruiser (I think) would get owned by a CCS Class Battle Cruiser- It's good thought though- I assume you mean space battle style of Battle front 2? Awesome (Avoiding 50mm Auto-Cannon Shells or point defence lasers ) well, a tank vs a wraith wins easily, right? And do not avoid 50mm Auto-Cannon Shells or point defence lasers, leave them making them usable not by the driver but by another player (like one or two guns for each player), even if they are not used a lot. just thought i would chip in here, the phantom pelican and seraph are all drivable in halo reach Yes, they are drivable, trough a glitch, and are very,very, VERY, did i mention very? bad. Pelican: really slow, no armament, only one or two passngers, who cant see anything, back hatch doesn't open, etc Phantom: really slow, can't climb up and move forward at the same time, can pass through a building, resulting in the death of the player, etc Seraph: not even going to mention. Sabre: we want them drivable in forge and multiplayer, able to land and takeoff with them. Moreover: glitches don't count. Make anidea, write that idea, Rafter

Amen, Rafter

"Yes, yes, a thousand times yes" It will not be the classic Halo, it will be better and more people will buy it; If you want to play classic Halo you can play all the previous games, and you will alreaady have Halo CEA, you don't need one more Keep opening you mind , Rafter

Agree, whathever the game is, most people will buy (I will not, but most will). Though, if the game cames really good, people who didn't like Halo will start liking it; meaning: more sales to 343i Weapons: i think they should keep the old weapons and ADD more. How come that, from Halo CE, there is only one AR, one sniper, one pistols, etc? I would prefer more variety. Keep posting, Rafter

343 is alerady going to create Halo CEA, so I'd say they should make that game a classic Halo game, but make Halo 4 smth much different. If 343 are able to have 32 players in the same game, what you mentioned above will not happen, Keep giving your ideas, Rafter

Come on people, this forum has more than 22 registred

once again, (No, thats not going to happen, im not trying to bash anyone but whats up with all these crazy ideas, its like your all turning in too children and your at the candy store running saying "i want that and that and this too" you cant get everything, and alot of that stuff is bad anyway) Agree and disagree, yes, we may lokk like children sometimes but there is nothing to lose writing here, and if 343i sees this they might change smth. Meaning: i know that, unfortunately, it doesn't seem that they will put all of our ideas because some might be considered impossible (having 200 people playing in a game) but we lose nothing by writing; just a big disappointment in the end, and that's what will surely happen to most people, specially with this game, See ya, Rafter

hi, thanks to be doing this (organising evrything on the top) this post has some very good ideas, check them out: http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=364 Not sure if it is mentioned on this post, but add: Forgable firefight Weather: choose the direction of ths sunlight (when it isn't night or there is fog, obviously ) Map creator on the pc, that can be uploaded to the xbox A way to move more than one piece at one time; like, you are building a base, and, when you are about to finhish it, you realised it has to move two meter to the right, you could just select all the pieces that mak the base and move them all at the same time, without aving to move one per one and destroythe base and buid it al over again (will add more things if I find them) Keep up the good work, Rafter

I dont think we can actually ask too much of 343. They grabbed the franchise, now they have to make it look better; that is definitively what they want.. About Lord-IGB's ideas; campaing: Agree, agree, some things more than others. But, boss fights? 2 things: 1 - The only boss I can see in Halo would be the scarabs, but they never fight alone (it would be stupid if they fought alone) so it isnt a boss. Other boss could be a brute general, but there is not much that could be done, like a sword fight? either you have a very good idea or it could only happen in cutscenes (which would not be a bad idea) 2 - I dont think it is a good idea. This is not Super Mario, nor Pokemon, nor Zelda, this is Halo. These kinds of games need to look realistic (even if they happen in the future), no like other kinds which don't. Write comments Rafter About Campaign Boss fights ever played Halo 2 ???? They had a boss fights Like Heretic Leader Boss While playing Arbiter or Tartarus or Prophet You just fought them in Game and i kinda want that to return A Scarab don't really feel like a boss to me more like a vehicle I Kinda would like something like that oh, you're right, I totally forgot about those, I didn't think it was anything special, though, but it definetely didn't look too much unreal (only the fact that you fought them all ALONE (except Tartarus), (but that's just what Halo is, isn't it, the lone wolf stuff; the part that I most disike about it ) Anyway, I would prefer no boss fights, but I am more concerned about the actual gameplay, forge and multyplayer, rather than the story itself (dodn't say I don't like campaign, played every level alone on, at least legendary :mrgreen: ) Thank you for correcting me, Rafter

Hey, I think it is a great game and should be incorporated in HALO 4 (the more things, the better), though I would add somethings. (This game looks like an old game of star wars) Instead of dropping from a dropship, you could be dropped using a drop pod (like ODST), the map should be enourmous and such vehicles as pelicans, phantoms, falcons, etc, should be place in-map and be used as a mean of transport (not all vehicles should appear in the begginnig and you should be able to control it as we do now in Reach) When you enter a vehicle that can transport more than 1 person (for the knoun vehicles, all except the banshee, the ghost and the chopper), you should be able to give commands to the AIs around you either to enter or to get out of the vehicles (smth like this very old star wars game had) Moreover, it could have gametypes, meaning, not only a deathmatch but with objectives like territoires, for example. Finally, each team should have one or more bases where the power weapons appear, but, again, only in a later phase. Anyway, great idea, hope it makes out to the final game, Rafter

Its probably because 343i wanted to improve in the graphics and design and thought that that codpiece wouldn't fit in. I don't see a problem with that. Farewell, Rafter

yes, yes, very poetic, so what?? What are you trying to say? It seems to me that you haven't checked all the other topics to see that that's exacly what people around here are trying to do. Everyone here are giving ideas and telling what they think was made wrong and what should be made better. So, this is the second time in two days I have to say this: - Newcomers, We salute you and welcome you to this site and would like you to give ideas, but try to understand whats going on before starting shooting things to the air without any background. Meaning: Read other posts, understand how this forum works, and help improve it, done, Hope that everybody here presents their ideas and do it so logically, Rafter

Agree with Bob, Halo has to move on, it can't be stuck on the same. If it does, why would we by the new game? It?s the same but with better graphics. For Halo to succeed, 343i needs to show they are better then all the rest, check these posts: http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=351 http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=254&start=10 People, who can't buy all games, or want to choose a game to play, should choose Halo for the fact that it has more variety. IF the ideas in the links are to be given life, multiplayer should be smth like this: when you can choose between competitive and cooperative and community and etc, if you choose competitive you should have this options: Classic Halo ODST (Still thinking on the best words) Classic Halo: No ADS, no AA, the normal maps, 8 players top. ODST: ODST=SWAT, but it should have more playlists (including sprint, ADS, see the links) like Team ODST, FFA ODST, it could even have team objectives ODST. (better than COD) (Still thinking on the best words): as the links said, bigger maps, new gametypes, etc. (better than Battlefield) Like this, people would choose Halo as they can change the gametype depending on theyr mood without much effort. Write comments, specially 343i, Rafter Ps: About br and DMR, 343i should left both, there is nothing wrong in having some weapons you don't use much. What the hell are you talking about the BR and the DMR are used just as much and mor than most weapons, once you realize that he BR/DMR is a much better weapon for a skilled player then it becomes essential to have in game You didnt understand what I was saying. Of course that, in the past Halo games, the BR and the DMR are the weapons most used in the games (even non-skilled players get that); what I was saying is: 343i should put both weapons in Halo 4 even if people only use the br or only use the DMR (it seems that people prefer the first option) and the other is not used much. That's what I am trying to say. Vote here: http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=452 Rafter

A topic like this has already been created: http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=452 If people just create new topics out and around it will get us nowhere. Is there a moderator aorund here? Both admins and moderators seem to be doing nothing. Prove me wrong! I have been writing in mild tones but things start to get complicated if no-one with power does anything. Just read the other topics before writing your first and only topic. Really thing Lukas is the only one with ideas here? Farewell, Rafter

Sorry for being late on replying. Just did it BTW: I doubt anyone here knows me. As I said before, I am European (with pride) and, here, only a few people have an xbox, and even fewer have Halo. (Microsoft does not advertise here; people don't even now that smth like Kinect exists) :!: saifa117, try to write everything in just one post, if you keep doing it the same way, the topic gets bigger and bigger because of just one person. (Just use the EDIT button on the right up cornor) If you find a way to tell them, please do tell them and tell us. I have already asked an admin of this forum if he was from 343i and if 343i was taking into consideration our posts. (I have written many things and have many more things to write, though i don't want to lose time writing and have faith if 343i already has a certain idea of what to create and accepts no advice) So far, no answer See you around and vote, (343, please tell us smth), Rafter

True, moreover, for smth to be on fire, you need oxigen. Either the fire is coming from the engines which use oxygen or it is unexplainable Rafter

Very well people, we're getting somewhere like this. I hope more users vote and give their opinions

To newcomers to this thread: Read, after this post, at least, page 5: both the first post and the colorful post (the second last). If you like them, vote next generation Halo, (even if you prefer classic Halo) because classic Halo is supposed to be included in a next generation Halo games (juts read the posts) (I wrote this cause I know people won't read all the posts in here) --------------- As far as we all are concerned, it seems that people are being divided between a more classic Halo experience and a new Halo experience. Though, people are creating too many topics and things get repeated and disorganized. With this topic, people should give their opinion and reasons ONE time, an try not to repeat what the others said. Therefore we will have here a nice debate. Poll: (you can change your vote In this poll) Classic Halo: classic Halo experience, probably smth similar to Halo 3 and Halo 2, etc. Next Generation Halo: New Halo experience: (here are some topics but don't have to forcibly be these) - all vehicles drivable and in Multiplayer and forge (including but not only, Pelicans, Phantoms, Scarabs, AA Wraths, Sabres, Longswords, Seraphs, and possibly space ships) - Armor that gives "pearks" or "abilities" or have some kind of effect (example: armor that protects explosions, armor that is a jetpack, camera that improves the zoom in weapons which have the zoom feature, etc) - Forge: Forgable firefight maps. Forgable terrain and lights. Forgable buildings/ships/vehicles. - ADS for weapons, as well as sprint for everybody. (If you don't know what ADS is, just check all the other FPS games, except, for example, Counter-Strike) - Larger maps and larger teams (maps withs ground and space battle) - Destroyable environment. (I didn't mention above many things that people who want this kind of Halo, including me, have presented because i think they might be very controversial. Please add those things bellow) (If you want a next gen. Halo, but dont agree with everything mentioned above, vote it as well and write below your regards) Other: give your own opinion. As if I even care: you just want the game right? (Note that I didn't mention things such as a undo an redo option for forge as I think it is not a controversial matter.) Let's just get it organised to help 343i guys, Rafter

you missed the sabre

Ever played Halo Wars? I for one didn't think an RTS can even be played on a console (I still believe that) but it wasn't that bad.. Reach is ok but it doesn't have that "Halo Style" anymore, we have health and we take fall damage, it really doesn't feel like any of the other Halo games but that doesn't have it an "embarrassment". Agree with Bob, Halo has to move on, it can't be stuck on the same. If it does, why would we by the new game? It?s the same but with better graphics. For Halo to succeed, 343i needs to show they are better then all the rest, check these posts: http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=351 http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=254&start=10 People, who can't buy all games, or want to choose a game to play, should choose Halo for the fact that it has more variety. IF the ideas in the links are to be given life, multiplayer should be smth like this: when you can choose between competitive and cooperative and community and etc, if you choose competitive you should have this options: Classic Halo ODST (Still thinking on the best words) Classic Halo: No ADS, no AA, the normal maps, 8 players top. ODST: ODST=SWAT, but it should have more playlists (including sprint, ADS, see the links) like Team ODST, FFA ODST, it could even have team objectives ODST. (better than COD) (Still thinking on the best words): as the links said, bigger maps, new gametypes, etc. (better than Battlefield) Like this, people would choose Halo as they can change the gametype depending on theyr mood without much effort. Write comments, specially 343i, Rafter Ps: About br and DMR, 343i should left both, there is nothing wrong in having some weapons you don't use much.

I TOTALLY AGREE with you, damn, what i read looked like what my conscience has been telling me. I wrote a post: http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=254&start=10 mentioning other things (forgetting things as destroyable environment) and would like to know your opinion on it. Although I wrote it with some regards because, although I would LOVE to play a game like you just described and some things I said, I think that 343 will want to keep the baseline, so I used a milder way to express my ideas so as no to give too much hope (at least for myself) Anyway I totally agree with you and would like to see your opinion on what I wrote. Check it out. Rafter

I think that adding new game modes is great, as I said in other posts, the more variety the better. Not sure if weapons scrambled around the map is a good idea but i need to think about it. As Xerkos333 said, i doubt the servers support 40 players Rafter

I dont think we can actually ask too much of 343. They grabbed the franchise, now they have to make it look better; that is definitively what they want.. About Lord-IGB's ideas; campaing: Agree, agree, some things more than others. But, boss fights? 2 things: 1 - The only boss I can see in Halo would be the scarabs, but they never fight alone (it would be stupid if they fought alone) so it isnt a boss. Other boss could be a brute general, but there is not much that could be done, like a sword fight? either you have a very good idea or it could only happen in cutscenes (which would not be a bad idea) 2 - I dont think it is a good idea. This is not Super Mario, nor Pokemon, nor Zelda, this is Halo. These kinds of games need to look realistic (even if they happen in the future), no like other kinds which don't. Firefight and forge: Already said on http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=254&start=10 Multiplayer. Totally agree with the skill system, a player shouldn't be able to be Hero or Mythic or Reclaimer just by playing a lot, they need to be good. The idea of more players is great, other games such as warrock support it, I hope Halo can support. tournaments. already exists the Arena. But a new kind of team tournament should be created. It shouldnt be left in matchmaking but should be controlled and define a winner in the end. this tournament could be as often as 3 in 3 months. Playing as a brute: good idea. Moreover,I would like to hear some ideas on whter you think that some armor attachments could affect gameplay (more zoom in snipers for example) of course this attachments would need to be much more expensive Other ideas such as more than one AA and the return of the equipment I cant say much as i didn't think about it yet. Although if equipment do return, I hope they make the flare more realistic and usefull, because it never did its job in Halo 3 (it didnt blind who we need to blind). Moreover, why not make equipment a bonus of buying a specific piece of armor (the drawback would be the impossibility of buying other piece of armor with other ability, this would make Halo a lot more realistic. If you go to war, people have different jobs with different purposes, i think this could be considered in Halo). About other ideas. Yes, make big vehicles drivable, and put the scarab in game and in forge. Elites and Brutes costumizable, obviously. Not sure about Dual wield and more melee weapons. Some weapons should forcibly be dual wieldable, like dual plasma rifles (meaning: you cant have only one, but can throw grenades all the same, with or without some delay)(this would require the improvement of the plasma repeater to match the dual plasma rifles, both having advantages and drawbacks in relations to each other)[Can give ideas if 343 asks] To 343, To my mind, 343 has two options: Option A Create an Halo game like the others, which will be bought by the same people. Option B Create a better Halo game, which (with the right advertising, which isn't hard) can make the sales grow. Even if some more classic Halo players, (mostly young kids) dislike it, it will be adored by many more (which with the ideas i mentioned in my posts including the links I left, would undoubtedly create the greatest game of all times)*. (*Nowadays a game needs to have a lot of options, freedom, and (if it is a game like this) must look real. Even on E3 some peolpe interviewed by Game Trailers TV said that Microsoft should have worried more about Fable rather than Halo because the latter was condemned.) Anyway, I would like to hear feedback on my comments, especially for 343 (I know it could result in you giving us some more information, but there are some very general settings, like the options I mentioned above, which I would like you to answer to give (or remove) hope. Write comments Rafter

Sorry, but couldn't disagree more, Although I believe that creating a Halo more similar to COD could match my tastes better, I don't believe that is what should happen. We need to look at this from the producers perspective. They want, obviously, to sell more and more, and want Halo to be the world's top seller (although they have a long way in front of them). With the previous Halo games, that didn't happen, and we see people who love Halo and people who think it is not a game that could match the others on the market. In a way, I agree with them, Halo is much different; but it's because it is supposed to be. (now, you think I am saying things against myself, let me explain) In order to make Halo perfect, it has to be different, so that players don't think it as another fps game and (specially those with lower budgets) don't have to choose between Halo4 and others (definitively, most people would not choose Halo) But it can't be too different or it becomes boring and more-of-the-same, etc, even able to be considered childish. Halo as a natural potential based on its storie, but it looks as if the producers tend to miss some things that could make Halo better. (Meaning: Halo much work around the fact that it is based on the future, but we are still Humans and it has to look realistic) Moreover, if the games are always the same, why should we by a new one? Just because of the graphics? Conclusion: Yes, I would like to be fighting Covenant with ADS and sprint and lots of dust in the air, like COD and Batllefield, but I think Halo4 needs to keep some of its different features (not a violent game, but a funny game). Although it has to evolve, using its true potential. (If someone wants me to explain better I can do that; I understand if you don't understand well what I said but I am sooo sleppy) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adding to my previous post, this guys have good ideas: http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=375 http://www.343industries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=415&p=3164#p3164 Rafter Ps: I think 343 should take into consideration our (the fan's) suggestions.

Agree with Drexel, agree in part with thecobaltocean.4 Halo is not a violent game, if you want violence play battlefield for example. So, playing Halo is supposed to be fun, and if water vehicles make it fun, so put them in the game. (an aircraft carrier seems great to me)~ Moreover, if water is added, swim has to be added as well, for the reasons that thecobaltocean said. I think it is a good idea, and should have written it on my post on "how to make Halo 4 succesfull"