Seeker of Truth Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 According to Halopedia, the Arbiter, some time between the events of The Thursday War and Spartan Ops, is still trying to establish an alliance between the former Covenant species and the humans. Apparently the Infinity is assigned to escort the Arbiter's ship(s) in an attempt to establish a cease-fire with the Jiralhanae, only to have the negotiations interrupted. Halopedia cited this: http://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/1442/dark-horse-announces-all-new-halo-ongoing-series-e as the source. Who do you think is trying to stop negotiations and keep the galaxy at war? Could it be the Storm faction, or the Servants of Abiding Truth? Time will tell, but it looks like Halo: Initiation might involve the UNSC fighting alongside the Arbiter's forces at some point. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuey Recluse Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 If I'm correct, I believe that ONI was supplying the Covenant Storm with arms in order to keep the Sangheili fighting each other because they have ulterior motives. I still haven't read Thursday War but from the last book Glasslands I take it that ONI wants the Forerunner artifacts for their own means. It certainly sounds as if ONI doesn't care about how the UNSC feels about this or that it will start another war. I believe that this could lead to another civil war and split the Sangheili and human factions. I could be wrong but that's what I remember was happening in Glasslands. http://www.halopedia.org/Glasslands#Plot_synopsis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker of Truth Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 In The Thursday War, ONI went even further, trying to completely eradicate all non-human life in the galaxy. They sabotaged the Sangheili food supply, replacing it with an indigestible grain that will outcompete the native crops. They also destroyed a number of the Arbiter's cruisers to ensure that he did not remain in power on Sanghelios (not out in the open, of course; they posed as Kig-Yar pirates. It's still unknown why they're trying to continue the war, and it's just my opinion, but I think they'll need to be found out and stopped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuey Recluse Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 I agree completely. ONI has always been shady and they've never seemed to be the good guys. Don't reveal the whole plot though I still want to read the book. Whatever ONI is planning isn't good but it will be interesting to see what happens. I think the Arbiter's story (Thel) needs to be developed a little more. Actually I think that he should get his own game (not just a short spin-off either). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 I agree completely. ONI has always been shady and they've never seemed to be the good guys. Don't reveal the whole plot though I still want to read the book. Whatever ONI is planning isn't good but it will be interesting to see what happens. I think the Arbiter's story (Thel) needs to be developed a little more. Actually I think that he should get his own game (not just a short spin-off either). not everything its black and white it is just shades of grey ONI is only looking out for human interests and who could blame them for the past 25 years humanity was fighting a losing war against the elites and the rest of the covenant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker of Truth Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 not everything its black and white it is just shades of grey ONI is only looking out for human interests and who could blame them for the past 25 years humanity was fighting a losing war against the elites and the rest of the covenant. I think all of the "evil" factions in the Halo universe (most of them, anyway) at this point are in that grey zone. The Didact believes he's protecting the galaxy; the Storm Faction is trying to preserve their religion, and ONI believes they're keeping the human race safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuey Recluse Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Even the evil guys (in their own minds) think that they're doing the right thing. When facing extinction all options could become viable. I'm still playing through Spartan Ops and Halsey would be one of those gray areas. I personally think that she had to do what she had to do to keep an edge over The Covenant. Even The Flood believe that consuming all life will bring peace. I guess my question is when do we turn back? If one keeps going down the rabbit hole we eventually find that those qualities that made us human start to slowly disappear. In the story it is mentioned (somewhere I think) that humanity was growing so powerful that they began to become a threat to the stability of the universe. Some Forerunners felt that they needed to be stopped. We're also told that humanity was fighting a front with The Flood and therefore the hostilities towards the Forerunners (and other beings) was justified. At what point will mankind become the bullies? Should there be checks on power? Just some food for thought. Great discussion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Element Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I have a feeling that the precursors will be brought back into play because of the actions of ONI. Humanity was originally destined to inherit the mantle from the precursors, which means protecting and preserving the life of the galaxy. Humanity is now on a "power trip" and they feel they can do whatever they please because of the resources that they now have. Actions such as destroying the Sangheili's food supply is a direct violation of the morals of the mantle though. From what I understand, there were precursors that fled the galaxy or went dormant in hiding after the forerunners began to wipe them out. I'm sure that humanity will catch their attention very soon with their actions, so the big dogs may just return to keep things in order 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuey Recluse Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I have a feeling that the precursors will be brought back into play because of the actions of ONI. Humanity was originally destined to inherit the mantle from the precursors, which means protecting and preserving the life of the galaxy. Humanity is now on a "power trip" and they feel they can do whatever they please because of the resources that they now have. Actions such as destroying the Sangheili's food supply is a direct violation of the morals of the mantle though. From what I understand, there were precursors that fled the galaxy or went dormant in hiding after the forerunners began to wipe them out. I'm sure that humanity will catch their attention very soon with their actions, so the big dogs may just return to keep things in order Interesting thoughts. I definitely would like to see how everything plays out. I'm particularly interested in actually seeing a Precursor. After reading the books I thought that the Precursors looked kind of freaky (in a good sci-fi kind of way). I thought that the Forerunners inherited the Mantle from the Precursors and then selected the humans to be next? Did I miss something in Silentium or Thursday War (I haven't read them yet please no spoilers). I would've read them sooner but being a poor college student I'm kind of limited financially at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoyPra Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I don't trust or like ONI. They're the human equivalent of Guilty Spark. And they're trying keep the Sangheli weak which is stupid because they will get found out and start another damn war, although that would cause more Halo games... okay now I'm conflicted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Element Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Interesting thoughts. I definitely would like to see how everything plays out. I'm particularly interested in actually seeing a Precursor. After reading the books I thought that the Precursors looked kind of freaky (in a good sci-fi kind of way). I thought that the Forerunners inherited the Mantle from the Precursors and then selected the humans to be next? Did I miss something in Silentium or Thursday War (I haven't read them yet please no spoilers). I would've read them sooner but being a poor college student I'm kind of limited financially at the moment. No, the precursors actually intended for humanity to inherit the mantle. The forerunners became enfuriated when they discovered this, so they rebelled against the precursors and sought to wipe them out. Since the rebellion, the forerunners assumed that they held the mantle. But now, since the forerunners are practically extinct, I believe that the mantle is now in the hands of its original heirs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I think all of the "evil" factions in the Halo universe (most of them, anyway) at this point are in that grey zone. The Didact believes he's protecting the galaxy; the Storm Faction is trying to preserve their religion, and ONI believes they're keeping the human race safe. They'll all come together to fight a mutual threat - the didact will then betray his temporary allies after he learns of what the covenant has done, and his hatred for humanity. Which will ultimately result in Masterchief's death and the end of the Halo Saga. Halo 6 summarized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuey Recluse Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 They'll all come together to fight a mutual threat - the didact will then betray his temporary allies after he learns of what the covenant has done, and his hatred for humanity. Which will ultimately result in Masterchief's death and the end of the Halo Saga. Halo 6 summarized. I certainly hope not. I know that Chief will have to die sometime eventually. There are so many unexplored areas of the Halo universe. Didact may not even be alive. He probably is alive but we still don't know for sure (at least I think he's not alive). It may be that humanity ends up becoming the monsters (maybe the saviors?) of the Halo universe. We're given the idea that humans are somehow set apart from the rest of the species in Halo. Inheriting the Mantle drove the Forerunners kill off humanity. Even the Covenant hated mankind because they had been chosen to be the inheritors. One question I'm asking is "What is mankind's role in this entire conflict?" To end the saga with the Chief's death wouldn't do the universe justice. He has to die but don't you wonder why the Chief has been given this great and unseen purpose? Halo goes pretty deep when one peels back all of the meaning and symbolism in it. I study symbolism in books and video games. Halo isn't just for entertainment. Halo is a story I've fallen in love with because it isn't just about shooting and killing. Just thought I'd give some thoughts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker of Truth Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 I don't trust or like ONI. They're the human equivalent of Guilty Spark. And they're trying keep the Sangheli weak which is stupid because they will get found out and start another damn war, although that would cause more Halo games... okay now I'm conflicted... We didn't fight any Sangheili in Halo 3, or ODST. They worked perfectly well. I think the Didact's attack on Earth might shock ONI into swallowing their pride, and hopefully get the Sangheili and humans fighting alongside one another again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazadure Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 maybe the flood survived?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuey Recluse Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 maybe the flood survived?? As Victory Element mentioned above ^ there ****SPOILER AHEAD**** The Flood are actually a form of Precursor. I believe that the Flood are still out there. As for what Seeker of Truth was asking in his first post The Flood in a sense were not trying to "cause war". The Flood want to assimilate every living organism and thus cause the "next step to evolution". That's why Mendicant Bias betrayed the Forerunners because he was convinced by the Gravemind that the Forerunners were delaying biological progress. The Flood actually want to achieve peace but their means to achieve that peace is pretty twisted. Actually almost every faction's means to achieve peace is twisted in its own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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