if you were in a type of swat with snipers in it which would you think would be a fair load out

[Banehalo]

if you know a good loadout for them let me know. another question: will be posted in comments soon

[Billy Mays]

What's the point of having a sniper and BR in SWAT?

[Surveillance]

Yeah really... the whole point is surprising your target. Not get hard-scoped from across the map.

[Banehalo]

sorry let me change it

[Bloody Initiate]

Some time during Reach I thought of a SWAT gametype that included sniper rifles in one of the loadouts. I don't think it got any other weapon though. The gametype had SWAT settings but loadouts like an actual SWAT team might have, so you had a sniper and a shotgun and stuff as well as a loadout with a DMR (Although to be honest, most "sniper rifles" SWAT teams use are probably more like "marksman rifles"). Loadouts with less versatile weapons (like the shotgun) had other stuff to make up for the lack, like a certain AA or grenades.

 

I posted the gametype in the B.Net Reach forums at the time and some people seemed to like the idea quite a bit. You just have to be careful to balance the loadouts so that everyone can contribute.

[Chris Hansen]

Thats an interesting take on the gametype.

 

I'm not sure how the game-type was coined swat but in halo 2, when it existed in custom games only for the first couple of months, it was commonly referred to as Team Head Shot in most custom games I played.

[Real Talk]

Yeah really... the whole point is surprising your target. Not get hard-scoped from across the map.

 

People hardscope plenty in SWAT with DMR's and BR's. I do not see an issue implementing a sniper class into SWAT.

[MCPO Mayh3m]

I am lethal with the Beam Rifle, and also I think if you gave someone the option of a DMR/Carbine/L.Rifle then they would use that all game long so I say forget those.

 

As for a loadout, Camo would be unfair and Promethian vision isn't really fair especially with no radar. So I went with Hologram. We used it in Reach and it was fun.

[Banehalo]

I am lethal with the Beam Rifle, and also I think if you gave someone the option of a DMR/Carbine/L.Rifle then they would use that all game long so I say forget those.

 

As for a loadout, Camo would be unfair and Promethian vision isn't really fair especially with no radar. So I went with Hologram. We used it in Reach and it was fun.

ok i will agree about that but what if it was like a magma for each loadout so you have that close weapon or energy sword?

[MCPO Mayh3m]

ok i will agree about that but what if it was like a magma for each loadout so you have that close weapon or energy sword?

 

Magnum seems fair, any secondary weapon I think would be ok.

[Banehalo]

Magnum seems fair, any secondary weapon I think would be ok.

ok i will work on this game type this is a poll to see what would make a couple fair loadouts so if people think that a sniper riffle is fair then that's fine by me

[ProudDrunkIrish]

Swat with snipers makes no sense as normal slayer sniper headshot = death lol, in swat hit em anywhere and they would die!!!!

 

Seems a bit far fetched....

[Banehalo]

Swat with snipers makes no sense as normal slayer sniper headshot = death lol, in swat hit em anywhere and they would die!!!!

 

Seems a bit far fetched....

well you get less damge cause of the shelds gone you need and equal damge protection

[Cpt Picardo]

I wsant the carbine and beam carbine

[Bloody Initiate]

well you get less damge cause of the shelds gone you need and equal damge protection

 

I don't think there is significant damage protection in the current SWAT gametype since you kill people in one melee.

 

I don't think that is a bad thing.

 

I wouldn't include damage protection to limit a sniper rifle in a SWAT gametype because there's no reason the sniper rifle should kill in two shots while every other gun kills in one. The whole point of SWAT is one-shot kills, usually due to headshots. This expands to become a gametype focused on reaction time, positioning (Being where they're not looking, being where they ARE where you're looking, and being harder to see/shoot), awareness (Hear fast footsteps behind you? Some idiot is going for an assassination), and communication believe it or not (If your team communicates you will be looking where the enemy is and have a sizable advantage). It's all about getting the jump on the other players, and thus a two-shot weapon is pointless.

 

That being said I'm having a hard time of thinking of a SWAT gametype for Halo 4 that could ever include a sniper rifle without being on a big map. The DMR just has enough accuracy and therefore coverage to do the job of a sniper rifle if no one has any shields. It could have worked in Reach since the DMR had much more dramatic accuracy degeneration in that game, not so much in Halo 4.

[Banehalo]

I don't think there is significant damage protection in the current SWAT gametype since you kill people in one melee.

 

I don't think that is a bad thing.

 

I wouldn't include damage protection to limit a sniper rifle in a SWAT gametype because there's no reason the sniper rifle should kill in two shots while every other gun kills in one. The whole point of SWAT is one-shot kills, usually due to headshots. This expands to become a gametype focused on reaction time, positioning (Being where they're not looking, being where they ARE where you're looking, and being harder to see/shoot), awareness (Hear fast footsteps behind you? Some idiot is going for an assassination), and communication believe it or not (If your team communicates you will be looking where the enemy is and have a sizable advantage). It's all about getting the jump on the other players, and thus a two-shot weapon is pointless.

 

That being said I'm having a hard time of thinking of a SWAT gametype for Halo 4 that could ever include a sniper rifle without being on a big map. The DMR just has enough accuracy and therefore coverage to do the job of a sniper rifle if no one has any shields. It could have worked in Reach since the DMR had much more dramatic accuracy degeneration in that game, not so much in Halo 4.

well we are having a vary confusing so as soon as i feel like it has been maxed out i will make my final choice