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#21 FIREN4

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 11:49 PM

The only thing I was upset about was the new emblem system and the ability to purchase REQs



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Posted 10 February 2016 - 02:19 PM

Replace 343 with Bungie and this sounds like Halo 2 all over again.
I can understand Halo being ruined
for someone because the story or the gameplay,
but your essentially saying that Halo is ruined because you
1: Didn't like the ending and
2: You didn't get anything for beating Legendary... Wow.

No, what hes saying is that 343 has no clue what the real fanbase was like, probably because they 343 never played the first Halos. They said in multiple interviews they wanted to keep Halo, but they wanted to make it their ow. By saying they want to make it your own is essentially saying this, forget the fans who have loved this game and have played it sense CE, where it took real skill to beat the campaign and online play. 

Now every Halo up until halo 4 has ad an epic ending, left you with your jaw open, wondering if Chief and Cortona were gunna make it to the chapter of their lives. 



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Posted 11 February 2016 - 07:04 PM

Now every Halo up until halo 4 has ad an epic ending, left you with your jaw open, wondering if Chief and Cortona were gunna make it to the chapter of their lives. 

Except Halo CE... and 2...

 

So mostly just 3


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Posted 22 February 2016 - 12:06 AM

Yeah, my first campaign experience was Halo 3, excellent story. But to be honest, I've always preferred multiplayer, wither it's online, local, etc. So I don't really play the campaigns anymore. Lol 


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Posted 22 February 2016 - 09:33 AM

It took you 12 hours to beat legendary? :o


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Posted 28 February 2016 - 06:13 PM

I just truly loved the first Halos, the new Halos are not even about Master Chief anymore. And Angel I know what you mean. But in Halo 4 it took my friend and me literally 4.5 hours to beat Halo 4 on Legendary... None of my friends will be buying the last halo, including me. 



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Posted 01 March 2016 - 05:32 PM

Y'know what... Who needs games with stories that people complain about! (sits in corner playing atari)


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Posted 10 March 2016 - 11:13 PM

Y'know what... Who needs games with stories that people complain about! (sits in corner playing atari)

 

LOL. Good one. I myself play plenty of the Atari 2600. :)


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 02:03 AM

I made this account just to let 343 industries know they lost 4 halo gamers, being me and all my gamer friends that all played since halo 1 on xbox original because of this no split screen ****, and im guessing were not the only ones you ruined halo for, congrats.

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:34 PM

It's a shame you aren't happy with Halo 5, but it's unreasonable to say that 'Halo' was ruined by 343 Industries because you expected more from the ending. You should really have a wider perspective, and consider all the other things Halo 5 has to offer. The ending should not be the only factor allowing you to determine whether Halo 5 was a success or not.

 

If you would like to forward a formal complaint to 343 Industries, visit Halo Waypoint: www.halowaypoint.com I'm sure they'd appreciate some constructive criticism, as long as you are reasonable about the matter.

Honestly, if 343 wanted to listen to constructive criticism, they should look at like, I don't know, any video on youtube about the topic. I mean, come on! Don't just blow it off as hating, these people have good ideas that could help. And I'm sure 343 wouldn't listen to complaints either and do nothing. Don't fix it if it ain't broke. Halo was fine before 343 came. And the ending wasn't the only crappy part about it (again, youtube). There was a lot of stuff that didn't make sense. WHO WAS THE MAIN VILLAIN!?!? Not Cortana, not Warden Eternal, not Jul Mdama, so WHO WAS IT!!???!?! Why were the covenant, prometheans and swords of sanghelios there!? Something for us to shoot at and give the arbiter a role!? I mean, COME ON!!!!! I didn't even list half the things I could've listed. And don't even get me started on multiplayer. HOW LONG WILL WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A WAY TO SELL MULTIPLE REQS AT ONCE!!!! Someone from 343 listened to the complaints about only selling one req at a time and said he'd take it to the team and get it fixed. Here we are, a year after release, AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT!! So you tell me, how is Halo 5 in any way not completely ruined by 343? Answer this.


Honestly, if 343 wanted to listen to constructive criticism, they should look at like, I don't know, any video on youtube about the topic. I mean, come on! Don't just blow it off as hating, these people have good ideas that could help. And I'm sure 343 wouldn't listen to complaints either and do nothing. Don't fix it if it ain't broke. Halo was fine before 343 came. And the ending wasn't the only crappy part about it (again, youtube). There was a lot of stuff that didn't make sense. WHO WAS THE MAIN VILLAIN!?!? Not Cortana, not Warden Eternal, not Jul Mdama, so WHO WAS IT!!???!?! Why were the covenant, prometheans and swords of sanghelios there!? Something for us to shoot at and give the arbiter a role!? I mean, COME ON!!!!! I didn't even list half the things I could've listed. And don't even get me started on multiplayer. HOW LONG WILL WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A WAY TO SELL MULTIPLE REQS AT ONCE!!!! Someone from 343 listened to the complaints about only selling one req at a time and said he'd take it to the team and get it fixed. Here we are, a year after release, AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT!! So you tell me, how is Halo 5 in any way not completely ruined by 343? Answer this.

Oh, to add, the cutscene where Chief and Locke fight for no reason because they have no quarrel while most of two highly trained super-soldier fireteams stand and watch as they fight, not talking, not doing anything until AFTER Locke is immoblized. I mean, WHY didn't they do anything! Why did this fight even happen!? They had no quarrel, why give them a two minute or longer cutscene about it for absolutely no reason! SERIOUSLY!! Halo Combat Evolved was great. Halo 2 was great. Halo 3 was incredible. Halo 4 was mediocre at very best. At least it had a main villain. Halo 5. Well. Here we are. The marines were extremely downgraded as well. There were very few of them and they didn't do anything except moan about spartans being on Meridian and get killed after taking down zero enemies. Even in warzone they look cartoony and fake! They have literally one voice for every marine in warzone and only a few for marines in campaign. I honestly didn't even know they were marines! I thought they were stuck-up inhabitants of Meridian that didn't like spartans (which they are). And why is 343 trying to appeal to younger audiences? What makes halo so good is the adult content Bungie put in it. WHY DOES HALO 5 SUCK SO MUCH!!!!!!???


 

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You don't get it! The arbiter had no reason to be there! Cortana and the guardians make no sense whatsoever! That's not even cortana anymore, it's like a different version of her! 343, if you're reading this, (probably not because you think I'm a hater) FIX HALO OR JUST STOP. I don't want to see halo 6 unless you promise me it's good.. Wrong word there, I'll be enraged! 


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 07:11 PM

So simply because you didn't like the ending and you didn't get what you wanted or anything as far as you're concerned, they ruined Halo? Just because you beat the campaign on Legendary doesn't mean you deserve anything. Yeah it would've been a nice added perk but, it doesn't entitle you to anything. And it's THEIR game, they can do whatever they want to the story. It's just like a movie. You usually end on a cliff hanger to setup the story for the next game. While I don't like the direction they took with Cortana, it is what it is and I don't like how little Blue Team was used. But, that doesn't mean they ruined Halo. 

 

People have this messed up conception that Devs have to make games how THEY want them to. Is it your IP? Do you own the rights to it? No you don't so get over it. Yeah the community can make suggestions and voice their dislikes about certain aspects of the game and they will be followed to a degree if the series is to survive.

Do you even know ANYTHING about how Halo 5 sucks. You're right about Cortana and Blue Team, but there's a lot more stuff that's pretty bad. Not just campaign, but multiplayer. If you play warzone firefight at darkstar, you can STILL see the pelican glitch along with countless others that should have been fixed but have not been fixed. So don't even start about Halo 5 not being an absolute piece of crap.



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Posted 17 November 2016 - 09:57 PM

Damn, it's been a while since I've written an actual forum post... I agree with you in the sense that there are many flaws with Halo 5 as a game, but I simply feel like there's a severe lack of logic in your replies that indicate slight bias - which is understandable - but doesn't help in the long run at all. Hence I'd like to break it down, and on the off chance you do reply I'd be happy to discuss.

 

 

 

 

Honestly, if 343 wanted to listen to constructive criticism, they should look at like, I don't know, any video on youtube about the topic. I mean, come on! Don't just blow it off as hating, these people have good ideas that could help. And I'm sure 343 wouldn't listen to complaints either and do nothing. Don't fix it if it ain't broke. Halo was fine before 343 came. And the ending wasn't the only crappy part about it (again, youtube). There was a lot of stuff that didn't make sense. WHO WAS THE MAIN VILLAIN!?!? Not Cortana, not Warden Eternal, not Jul Mdama, so WHO WAS IT!!???!?! Why were the covenant, prometheans and swords of sanghelios there!? Something for us to shoot at and give the arbiter a role!? I mean, COME ON!!!!! I didn't even list half the things I could've listed. And don't even get me started on multiplayer. HOW LONG WILL WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A WAY TO SELL MULTIPLE REQS AT ONCE!!!! Someone from 343 listened to the complaints about only selling one req at a time and said he'd take it to the team and get it fixed. Here we are, a year after release, AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT!! So you tell me, how is Halo 5 in any way not completely ruined by 343? Answer this.

 

 

 

"Don't fix it if it ain't broke" - Just because something is working adequately well for you, does not mean it is the game that others want to play. Never changing anything is going to lead to stagnation, and although all the changes 343 (Or really, any game developer) makes are in pursuit of a better gaming experience - whether it be to cater to newer tastes or to update and refresh old game mechanics - it's only natural, and unfortunate, that they aren't able to please everyone. Nonetheless, never changing anything = never improving. That's how you get bored, and that's how you slowly kill off your player population.

 

"WHO WAS THE MAIN VILLAIN!?!?" - I thought this was quite obvious, considering Cortana acts against the Master Chief. Furthermore, as Locke, your main objective in the climax of the game is to thwart her plans. Nonetheless, questioning who exactly was the 'bad guy' was probably very much one of the themes and ideas that 343i wanted to convey in Halo 5's story in the first place. 

 

"Why were the covenant, prometheans and swords of sanghelios there!?" - Well, that's why you should've paid attention to the story, right? I mean, come on. While the argument could be made that some information was in books and not revealed in games, it was clear through playthroughs that the Swords of Sanghelios and the Covenant were in a civil war. And the promeatheans... Well, there were tons of Forerunner Structures. Some missions in the game took place on a Forerunner built Planet!

 

"I didn't even list half the things I could've listed." - List it, please. You've only said like, 3-4 things, and most of your points have been somewhat... nonsensical.

 

"Someone from 343 listened to the complaints about only selling one req at a time and said he'd take it to the team and get it fixed. Here we are, a year after release, AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT!! " - People make mistakes. The team has to prioritise their problems, too. What's more important to functionality of the game? Broken matchmaking? Or the inability to sell multiple REQ packs at once? What's going to keep players continuing to log on each day? Selling their REQ packs? Or new DLC that includes new maps? Different game modes? Yes, it's an issue that they said they would do something and they still haven't done it, but 1) We have no idea how easy it is to fix and 2) There are many, many, many more important things that they are working on.

 

"So you tell me, how is Halo 5 in any way not completely ruined by 343?" - I mean... It's working fine. People still play. The game is good, fitting both conventions for the Halo series as well as the modern FPS genre. It's made probably way over half a billion in profit for 343. It's got many good reviews. I'd say that means it isn't ruined.

 

 

 

 

Oh, to add, the cutscene where Chief and Locke fight for no reason because they have no quarrel while most of two highly trained super-soldier fireteams stand and watch as they fight, not talking, not doing anything until AFTER Locke is immoblized. I mean, WHY didn't they do anything! Why did this fight even happen!? They had no quarrel, why give them a two minute or longer cutscene about it for absolutely no reason! SERIOUSLY!! Halo Combat Evolved was great. Halo 2 was great. Halo 3 was incredible. Halo 4 was mediocre at very best. At least it had a main villain. Halo 5. Well. Here we are. The marines were extremely downgraded as well. There were very few of them and they didn't do anything except moan about spartans being on Meridian and get killed after taking down zero enemies. Even in warzone they look cartoony and fake! They have literally one voice for every marine in warzone and only a few for marines in campaign. I honestly didn't even know they were marines! I thought they were stuck-up inhabitants of Meridian that didn't like spartans (which they are). And why is 343 trying to appeal to younger audiences? What makes halo so good is the adult content Bungie put in it. WHY DOES HALO 5 SUCK SO MUCH!!!!!!???

 

 

 

"fight for no reason because they have no quarrel" - Well, one of them disobeyed the chain of command. The other was following it.

 

"watch as they fight, not talking, not doing anything until AFTER Locke is immobilized. Why didn't they do anytihng?" - Great question, one that you'd have to pick up on both teams' thoughts, as well as understand their personalities, in order to understand. Locke heavily respects the chain of command - he has put Chief's role as the saviour of humanity out of his mind and focused on him instead as the object of his mission and his orders. Chief, meanwhile is fixated on reaching Cortana. Blue Team is family - they will go wherever Chief goes, but they aren't blind dogs. All of them know they are going against their orders - and they've been taught to follow orders their entire life - and it makes them hesitant to engage (Not to mention they knew the outcome of the fight between Chief and Locke before it even happened, and all 3 were most probably ready to pounce should the other members of Osiris decide not to look on as bystanders.) Meanwhile, the other members of Osiris still held heavy respect for Chief and his team. They were saviours of humanity - it was unthinkable for them to betray the UNSC - much less for Osiris to actually attack them. 

 

If I remember correctly, the soldiers in the Meridian mission weren't marines. As for the Marines in Warzone, ignoring the fact that the servers were probably heavily taxed and 343 felt like Marine voice was less integral to gameplay that many other game systems, you know that canonically they are simulations as well, right?

 

"Why is 343 trying to appeal to younger audiences?" - That is not their only target audience, but it only makes sense to want kids to play your game as they're the ones who're gonna play the next ones and the next ones while series veterans move on.

 

"What makes halo so good is the adult content Bungie put in it" - I don't remember any adult content, and I honestly wouldn't say violence - which was the reason previous games had a higher rating - was the reason previous games excelled either.

 

 

 

 

You don't get it! The arbiter had no reason to be there! Cortana and the guardians make no sense whatsoever! That's not even cortana anymore, it's like a different version of her! 343, if you're reading this, (probably not because you think I'm a hater) FIX HALO OR JUST STOP. I don't want to see halo 6 unless you promise me it's good.. Wrong word there, I'll be enraged!

 

 

 

"The Arbiter had no reason to be there!" - Well, other than the fact that that was his home planet, of which he was trying to lead.

 

"Cortana and the guardians make no sense whatsoever!" - Well, it does make sense, even if in some ways I personally feel the story was in some ways contrived. Pay attention, or if you aren't gonna play the game again, ask away. I'd be happy to explain what you don't understand.

 

"That's not even Cortana anymore, it's like a different version of her!" - Debatable, but the specifics are up to the story's creators.

 

"I don't want to see halo 6 unless you promise me it's good" - I'm sure it's gonna be friggin awesome. Unfortunately, just like every other game in existence, it probably won't suit every player's taste. :(

 


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