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Reason number 1,

 

Plot holes bigger then the halo rings.

 

A long time ago the forerunners were the wise and just guardians of the galaxy. Suddenly ancient humans came out of nowhere because they were running away from the flood. The humans destroyed a few forerunner planets in an effort to stop the flood from spreading, which resulted in a long and bloody conflict between the two races. PAUSE

 

Why didn't the humans try to warn the forerunners about the flood? Why did the forerunners react with violence instead of trying to find out why the humans were attacking them? I mean aren't they supposed to be these benevolent safe guarders of life? Neither the humans nor the forerunners tried to find a diplomatic solution?

 

PLAY The humans lost the war, and the didact reset their DNA so they became cavemen again and put them on Earth PAUSE

 

Martian man hunter rip off. 

 

PLAY Eventually the forerunner realized that the humans were only attacking them because they were trying to stop the flood from spreading. It was too late however, and the flood starting kicking the forerunners' asses. In a failed attempt to gain immortality and transcendence, they found a means of making organic beings into inorganic lifeless scary bug robots that were the ultimate weapons against the flood. They began turning themselves into the "Promethean knights" to combat the parasite. PAUSE

 

I fail to see the point of turning forerunners into promethean knights. Why not just make tons flood killing robots? I mean seriously. "Hey, so in order to prevent you from becoming flood, we think it's a good idea for you to become a promethean knight." That's like saying, "Poor gasoline on yourself and light yourself on fire so you don't freeze to death."

 

PLAY To get more Promethean knights, the Didact, who went a little psycho in his hatred of humans, started turning humans into Promethean knights because he needed more. The librarian, thinking that the forerunners had failed as guardians of the galaxy, decided it would be better to set off the halo rings and kill everyone in order to rob the flood of their food source. Some sentient life would be kept on the halo rings in order to be spared, and then would be re released on their home planets. The Librarian also messed with the human DNA so that they eventually become the gaurdians of the galaxy. She shot her husband, the Didact, and put him in a little ball inside an artificial planet and sent him outside the galaxy so that he could one day be awakened.

 

Well apparently she had a pretty bad plan because nothing in it worked at all. The covenant races advanced faster then the humans, the flood that they kept in tubes for some stupid reason got released, and the didact got released too early.

 

I'd say halo, halo 2, halo 3, and halo Reach have great storylines. It's halo 4 that screwed it all up.

 

Reason number 2

 

The didact is a very stereotypical villain. 

 

A friend of mine called him, "Darth Sideos in Lord Saurons armor." His lines are cool, his voice is cool, but come on. Did we really need a halo villain that could use the force? The point of the forerunners was that they were mysterious. We all knew them as these people who terraformed planets for the lulz, and we all wondered what they were capable of. It was better that way. Now they are just like any other highly advanced ancient alien nemesis. The didact can read minds and pick things up with his mind. Next thing you know he's going to say, "Take me to your leader." And come on dude. THe outfit. You know how I knew he was going to the bad guy as soon as I saw him? It wasn't because I understood the plot of the game, it was because he was dressed in black armor with horns and gave off an orange/red aura. 

 

Reason number 3

 

"If it aint broke, don't fix it." As they say. The Elites looked cool in the other games. Why did they have to change them? I thought I was watching the land before time for a second when I first played halo 4. 

 

Reason number 4

 

I shouldn't have to youtube all the terminal videos and read a plot summary on halo wiki to understand the story of the the game, and that's what I had to do. The story was not developed at all. They tried to explain too much in too little time. Did anybody catch what the librarian was talking about?

 

Reason number 5

 

Cortana's death was unnecessary. She's a sassy AI that Master Chief is really attached to because he has no friends. We all liked her because she provides comedic relief. It was a little distressing to think that she might die in halo 2 or halo 3, and when she lived we were a happy. Now when we are trying to play the game and we have to listen to her "Go rampant" the entire time. It wasn't sad when she died, it was more of a "What did I just watch?" sort of feeling. Why kill off Master Chiefs AI side kick in such a dramatic creepy human-hologram robot kind of love intrest fashion?

 

 

In light of this, me and my friends have proposed an ending that will forever be canon to us.

 

Master Chief is never seen again, although some slipspace anomalies near Reach were detected a few weeks after the ark was destroyed. Investigations found nothing. Legend has it that the aging spartan, with the help of his trusty AI companion found their way to Reach, where he currently resides by the graves of his fellow Spartans. All across the galaxy people sing of the soldier who saved humanity, and they say "the Master Chief" remains ready to save humanity should it fall into peril once again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Humanity and the Forerunners were never close allies, they barely communicated with each other, just tolerated their existences. Humanity had no time to have a nice little chat, so they purged Forerunner infected worlds to quickly eliminate any threat of the flood. And naturally, if you were under attack by a powerful empire you would defend yourselves at all costs, and that's what the Forerunners did, hence the huge Forerunner/Humanity War.

A thing to remember is that the humans were colonising the planets right after destroying them, which was about 50 defenseless Forerunner colonies. The Forerunners and Humans were already rivals due to the Mantle-of-Responsibility, also Humanity had expanded their empire at a rate not seen in the galaxy before, it was threatening to completely overwhelm the Forerunner Empire, and then the destruction of Forerunner worlds was the last straw which sparked the war.

 

Only a handful of Promethean Warrior Servants were transcended into Promethean Knights, it was a vast majority of devolved humans who were changed for the will of the Ur-Didact. The Ur-Didact saw no use of humanity and used them for his purposes.

 

 

It's a bit harsh on the Librarian, you try to make a perfect plan that is to work in over 100'000 years time that works flawlessly. No one else would've even attempted to imagine such a plan, yet she attempted it, and did pretty damn well. The Flood that were in research stations were there, to be researched on. They were left over from the Forerunner/Flood war since all life in the galaxy was annihilated.

 

 

The Ur-Didact had a strong hatred for humanity which was justified. Humanity destroyed everything he held dear (clearly except for the Librarian), they were trying to overtake the Mantle-of-Responsibility from the Forerunners, which the Forerunners believed was their birthright. So in his mind, everything he was doing was justified against Humanity, they were a threat to the Mantle and had to be removed, which is why he destroyed them.

 

I will agree with the Elites, however, I will say that Bungie also screwed them up in Halo Reach. They were perfect in the trilogy games, but were mucked up right after with Wars then Reach. 343i just didn't fix it.

 

I personally had no problems with understanding a thing about Halo 4's campaign, I found it very easy to comprehend without researching on the Terminals and the new Forerunner books that came out. Although, I did research before the game came out, so that could've aided my understanding, I dunno.

Which part of what the Librarian was talking about confused you? I could answer that.

 

Cortana is a Smart AI, hence she has human emotions. She's not the only AI to get attached to people/creatures either, AI before her have done so too. I will say that her death was silly, although making sense, was just stupid. I never saw her as a comic relief character either, I saw her as the second main character for the series, one with development and a personality, unlike the Chief until Halo 4 (excluding the books). Her death was meant to mean something, and drive Chief down into depression because he lost the only friend he had. He was very alone, and lost everything over his years growing as a Spartan, clearly this would impact him.

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all seemed true enough.  Good job man! :thumbsup:

The OP did an excellent job of convincing anyone not familiar with the Halo lore that he is right but in fact the OP is just poorly uninformed. Of course that isn't his fault and he isn't trolling so all is well.

 

I am too tired to type a proper reply that will do you justice but if Azaxx's response doesn't satisfy you then I will give it a go. 

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One thing that I miss in Halo 4 is the atmosphere that the Covenant generated in the previous games, I mean I feel "scared" playing Halo CE, 2 and 3, and I liked that sensation, humanity being the weak part. The thing is I don't like this new "enemy" of the game, but I think we can't stay in the past forever.

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*Not really in any order compared to the OP's listing*

 

I have to agree with the Forerunner race plot holes. The Didact did seem stereotypical, though he wasn't really 'right in the head' (Whereas Darth Sidious was playing the Jedi the entire time and was always advancing the war with advantages for both Jedi/Republic and Sith), so I can understand the reasons for giving the Didact 'Force-like powers'. He did have strong powers, but he seemed to rely on his race's technology to do much of his work (i.e. He really could have destroyed the Forerunner artifact that Chief used against him despite everyone thinking it was indestructible. All he really needed to do was seal it away somewhere inaccessable to humans and covenant.)

 

 

The Promethean Knight point I have to argue against. Considering how deadly 343i made the Flood out to be, it does make a little more sense to turn the Forerunners into machines rather than risk them being infected (plus as machines they were stronger and more enhanced than when they were organic). Though, yes, the Didact using humans as resources is overkill if you care enough to look into how many times that particular plot idea has been used in all forms of media. Daybreakers, anyone? Looking past the general picture, the Didact's actions did, in a way, help to protect the Forerunner race. And to be precise, as Azaxx said, only some of the Forerunners were chosen. I theorize that it was only the strongest and most loyal of the race that both the Didact and the Librarian chose (If you remember, the Didact's knights had and red-orange variant glow, while the ones touched by the Librarian produced a bluish glow).

 

 

Now the point about the Humans attacking the Forerunners while trying to escape the Flood invasion, well there are a few different ways to explain and justify this. For example:

(And sorry for quoting a Machinima series; I know it's kind of cheesy.) In the Season 6 beginning of the Red vs Blue series, a quote appears on screen reading "It is an undeniable and may I say fundamental quality of man that when faced with extinction... every alternative is preferable."

 

Think of it like this: The Flood only sought out life forms because they were hungry, which presented the possiblity of extinction for the Human Race. Because of this, humanity sought to destroy the Flood through whatever means possible, and upon discovering that the Forerunner planets could possibly be used as weapons, they used them as such. Of course the Forerunners would have either stood against the humans or might've helped, if they had stopped running long enough to find out. But because they were desperately trying to survive, it makes sense that the Humans just didn't care to find out, but instead did whatever was possible to fight the Flood, even if it meant destroying a few non-UNSC controlled worlds in the process. This also explains the Didact's hatred toward Humanity; having everything important to them destroyed would consume anyone with hatred, right? And since the Forerunners became focused on destroying Humans, they might not have noticed the Flood, which leads to the Didact's decision to create a means of fighting back.

 

 

Cortana's death was meant to convey a handful of things, such as the main reason for Master Chief's end, an attempt to make the player feel for Chief (losing your only friend after going through 4 games worth of fighting definitely makes it rough to continue fighting, especially when it means you'd have to fight alone), to show that there are rarely any 'happy endings' (which makes me thank God that Disney was in no way involved here, otherwise we'd eventually see Chief and Cortana living a cosy little life on a pretty lakeside cabin, etc.), and a few other reasons.

 

I felt that her death was a well-planned, seamless way to end the saga of Master Chief, after we all saw the end of H4 where Chief's armor was finally removed (though I hated how these developers cut to black right as his helmet was removed. C'mon, after 4 games of fighting to save the universe, we at least deserve to see the hero behind the mask!). It's understandable that they chose not to give Chief a happy ending even though he saved Humanity time and again. They meant for us to feel for Chief, but also be glad that he no longer wanted to fight, that it was time to hang up his Magnum and move on.

 

 

I agree with you point about the Elites' appearance changes. In my opinion their armor was a little more interesting than in H2 and H3, but the original designs looked a lot better. Same goes for other Covenant characters; I noticed a few times that some of the Grunts and Jackals had also been altered. Not a big deal to me though, since every Grunt in my way had confetti burst from its skull before it could say "Blarg".

 

 

Why wouldn't the Forerunners react to the Humans' sudden attacks with violence? If the Humans were attacking, it only makes sense to fight back, lest their race be erased. And the Didact's reconstruction of mankind's DNA wasn't really a Martian Manhunter ripoff; it was more like he truly was upholding his status as a Guardian by not wiping the Humans from existence after the war. I don't know much about the DC Universe (Marvel fan), but I don't recall the Martian Manhunter being in a war against mankind (as stated, not too knowledgeable about DC, so if I'm wrong, I'm sorry.)

 

 

I don't really see where you got the "creepy human-hologram robot love interest" idea. I always saw Chief and Cortana's relationship as more of a Best Friends/Family type of love. I guess I can understand the elements involved in your statement, but it just doesn't feel like that kind of relationship was present.

 

 

I have to side with Azaxx about the Librarian. She tried to put the needs of her race (and mankind, indirectly) first over all else, and pretty much succeeded. Plus being immortal (or whatever she was) gave her plenty of time to work out all of the kinks in her plan.

 

 

About the terminals. The story wasn't really all that hard to grasp. The hero is brought back to save the universe. The villain had understandable and simple goals. The hero received help when he was in need of it. In the end the hero wins yet again and slays the villain. (Well, not actually that easy to understand, but those are the basic ideas behind the plot.)

 

See, it was up to Master Chief to stop the Didact, who simply wanted to destroy all Human life. With the help of his friend and the Librarian, Chief overcame all obstacles and succeeded in his quest. Yes, the terminals helped explain the backstories of the Forerunners, the Didact, the Librarian, and so on, but truthfully they weren't completely necessary since a lot of the factors that led up to the events of H4 were told through encounters with the involved race(s). I agree the scene with the Librarian was a bit fast and somewhat difficult to understand right off the bat, but just watching it could have given you a basic understanding of what happened; She gave Chief power that helped him penetrate the Didact's defenses and fight the Didact head-on.

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Reason number 1,

 

Plot holes bigger then the halo rings.

 

A long time ago the forerunners were the wise and just guardians of the galaxy. Suddenly ancient humans came out of nowhere because they were running away from the flood. The humans destroyed a few forerunner planets in an effort to stop the flood from spreading, which resulted in a long and bloody conflict between the two races. PAUSE

 

Why didn't the humans try to warn the forerunners about the flood? Why did the forerunners react with violence instead of trying to find out why the humans were attacking them? I mean aren't they supposed to be these benevolent safe guarders of life? Neither the humans nor the forerunners tried to find a diplomatic solution?

 

PLAY The humans lost the war, and the didact reset their DNA so they became cavemen again and put them on Earth PAUSE

 

Martian man hunter rip off. 

 

PLAY Eventually the forerunner realized that the humans were only attacking them because they were trying to stop the flood from spreading. It was too late however, and the flood starting kicking the forerunners' asses. In a failed attempt to gain immortality and transcendence, they found a means of making organic beings into inorganic lifeless scary bug robots that were the ultimate weapons against the flood. They began turning themselves into the "Promethean knights" to combat the parasite. PAUSE

 

I fail to see the point of turning forerunners into promethean knights. Why not just make tons flood killing robots? I mean seriously. "Hey, so in order to prevent you from becoming flood, we think it's a good idea for you to become a promethean knight." That's like saying, "Poor gasoline on yourself and light yourself on fire so you don't freeze to death."

 

PLAY To get more Promethean knights, the Didact, who went a little psycho in his hatred of humans, started turning humans into Promethean knights because he needed more. The librarian, thinking that the forerunners had failed as guardians of the galaxy, decided it would be better to set off the halo rings and kill everyone in order to rob the flood of their food source. Some sentient life would be kept on the halo rings in order to be spared, and then would be re released on their home planets. The Librarian also messed with the human DNA so that they eventually become the gaurdians of the galaxy. She shot her husband, the Didact, and put him in a little ball inside an artificial planet and sent him outside the galaxy so that he could one day be awakened.

 

Well apparently she had a pretty bad plan because nothing in it worked at all. The covenant races advanced faster then the humans, the flood that they kept in tubes for some stupid reason got released, and the didact got released too early.

 

I'd say halo, halo 2, halo 3, and halo Reach have great storylines. It's halo 4 that screwed it all up.

 

Reason number 2

 

The didact is a very stereotypical villain. 

 

A friend of mine called him, "Darth Sideos in Lord Saurons armor." His lines are cool, his voice is cool, but come on. Did we really need a halo villain that could use the force? The point of the forerunners was that they were mysterious. We all knew them as these people who terraformed planets for the lulz, and we all wondered what they were capable of. It was better that way. Now they are just like any other highly advanced ancient alien nemesis. The didact can read minds and pick things up with his mind. Next thing you know he's going to say, "Take me to your leader." And come on dude. THe outfit. You know how I knew he was going to the bad guy as soon as I saw him? It wasn't because I understood the plot of the game, it was because he was dressed in black armor with horns and gave off an orange/red aura. 

 

Reason number 3

 

"If it aint broke, don't fix it." As they say. The Elites looked cool in the other games. Why did they have to change them? I thought I was watching the land before time for a second when I first played halo 4. 

 

Reason number 4

 

I shouldn't have to youtube all the terminal videos and read a plot summary on halo wiki to understand the story of the the game, and that's what I had to do. The story was not developed at all. They tried to explain too much in too little time. Did anybody catch what the librarian was talking about?

 

Reason number 5

 

Cortana's death was unnecessary. She's a sassy AI that Master Chief is really attached to because he has no friends. We all liked her because she provides comedic relief. It was a little distressing to think that she might die in halo 2 or halo 3, and when she lived we were a happy. Now when we are trying to play the game and we have to listen to her "Go rampant" the entire time. It wasn't sad when she died, it was more of a "What did I just watch?" sort of feeling. Why kill off Master Chiefs AI side kick in such a dramatic creepy human-hologram robot kind of love intrest fashion?

 

 

In light of this, me and my friends have proposed an ending that will forever be canon to us.

 

Master Chief is never seen again, although some slipspace anomalies near Reach were detected a few weeks after the ark was destroyed. Investigations found nothing. Legend has it that the aging spartan, with the help of his trusty AI companion found their way to Reach, where he currently resides by the graves of his fellow Spartans. All across the galaxy people sing of the soldier who saved humanity, and they say "the Master Chief" remains ready to save humanity should it fall into peril once again.

!. The HUmans where kind mof a underdog for the Forunners they where however catching upp in technologically standards faster then any races in the milky way, The Precursors ngrew wery fond of the humans and if things would have played out as they planned we Humans would have been the bearer of the mantle. But the Forunners where jelous of the humans and the Precusor grewing to atached to them som they wiped the precusors off the very galaxy. The Precusors swore vengence on the Forunners and Created the "Flood super DNA" and spread it throug out key forunner holds of the milky way. The humans however stumbled on too the virus first and saw with there eyes what it could do. The decided to quaranti it and resarch it to find a cure. However the flood virus spreadvery quickly troug out forunner space and the humans where forced to glass som forunner colonies. the Forunners saw this as an act of war and quickly assembeled there fleet and went on the offensive. The Humans now finding themselves in a two front war sought help rom other species more specificly the San Shyum (Prophets) who provided refugge for humans in the war. The last battle even conquerd on The San Shyum homeworld. After the war the humans explaeined there actions. mthe Forunners did not belive them and the humans refused to give up key evedince of there claims the flood virus and the cure they had been working on.

2. don´t know what that is..

3. Cause the prometheans are perfect melded bio and AI compartments which makes them even more sophisticated then any living thing out there and AI.

4. HAd no Problem whit the didact hes more develepode then a Emporor who only laughs and an ****** face.

5. These Elites are part of an splinter faction in the Elite hirachry they are being hunte by Joint Elite and human forces. Mabye the lesser armor are a symbol for there resegnition from Shanghelios and it´s military?

6.It wasn´t it made us qustione her very existens and that all things has there set time. It changed the Cheif into a more human soldier instead of a brainwashed 7 year old kid.

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6.It wasn´t it made us qustione her very existens and that all things has there set time. It changed the Cheif into a more human soldier instead of a brainwashed 7 year old kid.

 

He is a broken man, Cortana was the only thing that he actually had left to care for (not knowing some of his old team mates still lived).

 

It didn't change him into a more human soldier, it changed him into a person, someone we could affiliate with. Because don't forget, we as players have been through his ideals as well.  I think I actually yelled to my TV when the console she was plugged into just disintegrated.

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It didn't change him into a more human soldier, it changed him into a person, someone we could affiliate with. Because don't forget, we as players have been through his ideals as well.  I think I actually yelled to my TV when the console she was plugged into just disintegrated.

I see some people that argue that Chief should have remained the same. You know, one liners and talking seldom and stuff like that. I just don't see the appeal of the silent protagonist anymore. It's overdone, and leaves your character with no development. I like Chief more now than I did before. Instead of (Generic underdeveloped Protaginist) fights evil, how about (Developed Character) fights evil and himself.

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I see some people that argue that Chief should have remained the same. You know, one liners and talking seldom and stuff like that. I just don't see the appeal of the silent protagonist anymore. It's overdone, and leaves your character with no development. I like Chief more now than I did before. Instead of (Generic underdeveloped Protaginist) fights evil, how about (Developed Character) fights evil and himself.

 

I liked him before as well, but he was really distant to UNSC in Halo 4 and I think that has to do with the Spartan-IV's, he is rather talkative (incomparison with the other games) with no UNSC around, but starts giving one sentence answers like we are used of him with UNSC around, I think he became more distant towards them, since it isn't the world he left behind in Halo 3.

 

I think the development of character we saw in Halo 4 was a good step, we like to be the hero, but we also like to affiliate with them. Wolfenstein the new order made that decision really well and even though bBazkowich is a murdering tool of war, he is still human and some of the cutscenes show that.

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(Quote) -snip (-quote)

 

 

Provide one instance where the ancient humans have directly broken canon. There are none.

 

(Quote)-snip-(quote)

 

To quote Halo 4 terminal 'War'

 

"Lord of Admirals, shouldn't we warn the forerunners?"

 

"And give the parasite time to spread? No, warning them will take too long."

 

Paraphrased, but you get the picture.

 

 

PLAY The humans lost the war, and the didact reset their DNA so they became cavemen again and put them on Earth PAUSE

 

Put them on Installation 07, where they were later composed*

 

 

Martian man hunter rip off.

 

wat

 

 

PLAY Eventually the forerunner realized that the humans were only attacking them because they were trying to stop the flood from spreading. It was too late however, and the flood starting kicking the forerunners' asses. In a failed attempt to gain immortality and transcendence, they found a means of making organic beings into inorganic lifeless scary bug robots that were the ultimate weapons against the flood. They began turning themselves into the "Promethean knights" to combat the parasite. PAUSE

 

I fail to see the point of turning forerunners into promethean knights. Why not just make tons flood killing robots? I mean seriously. "Hey, so in order to prevent you from becoming flood, we think it's a good idea for you to become a promethean knight." That's like saying, "Poor gasoline on yourself and light yourself on fire so you don't freeze to death."

 

The Gravemind(s) were known to be able to turn AI's against their masters (Case in point; Mendicant Bias- an AI designed to fight the flood. What makes sentinels less susceptible?)

 

 

PLAY To get more Promethean knights, the Didact, who went a little psycho in his hatred of humans, started turning humans into Promethean knights because he needed more. The librarian, thinking that the forerunners had failed as guardians of the galaxy, decided it would be better to set off the halo rings and kill everyone in order to rob the flood of their food source. Some sentient life would be kept on the halo rings in order to be spared, and then would be re released on their home planets. The Librarian also messed with the human DNA so that they eventually become the gaurdians of the galaxy. She shot her husband, the Didact, and put him in a little ball inside an artificial planet and sent him outside the galaxy so that he could one day be awakened.

 

Well done. You can recount a story.

 

 

Well apparently she had a pretty bad plan because nothing in it worked at all. The covenant races advanced faster then the humans, the flood that they kept in tubes for some stupid reason got released, and the didact got released too early.

 

A) The Covenant advanced so quickly due to the high numbers of Forerunner artefacts on their home worlds, including a keyship on Janjur-Qom. This had not been intended, and was the only reason they were as advanced as they were- they reverse engineered.

B) Why do we keep viruses like Ebola, Smallpox and Spanish Flu around today? To research them and hopefully create a vaccine or cure.

 

 

I'd say halo, halo 2, halo 3, and halo Reach have great storylines. It's halo 4 that screwed it all up.

 

Halo 3- the game that created more questions than answers. How did High Charity get through a portal that was smaller than it? Why was Earth not infected when it did this? Why did Miranda try ramming a pelican into the citadel instead of shooting the place up?

 

Reach- Are you seriously saying a good story has the UNSC in open warfare on a continent the size of Africa and fighting a ship that is 27km long and doesn't send a fleet to investigate for a MONTH?

 

 

Reason number 2

 

The didact is a very stereotypical villain.

 

A friend of mine called him, "Darth Sideos in Lord Saurons armor." His lines are cool, his voice is cool, but come on. Did we really need a halo villain that could use the force? The point of the forerunners was that they were mysterious. We all knew them as these people who terraformed planets for the lulz, and we all wondered what they were capable of. It was better that way. Now they are just like any other highly advanced ancient alien nemesis. The didact can read minds and pick things up with his mind. Next thing you know he's going to say, "Take me to your leader." And come on dude. THe outfit. You know how I knew he was going to the bad guy as soon as I saw him? It wasn't because I understood the plot of the game, it was because he was dressed in black armor with horns and gave off an orange/red aura.

 

So your opinion? Also, the fact you admitted that you didn't understand the plot is troubling.

 

 

Reason number 3

 

"If it aint broke, don't fix it." As they say. The Elites looked cool in the other games. Why did they have to change them? I thought I was watching the land before time for a second when I first played halo 4.

 

Jul's fleet primarily relies on civilian armour and other scavenged materials as opposed to the covenant's numerous resources. Thel still used the Halo 3 era armours in his faction. Regardless, this isn't story related.

 

 

Reason number 4

 

I shouldn't have to youtube all the terminal videos and read a plot summary on halo wiki to understand the story of the the game, and that's what I had to do. The story was not developed at all. They tried to explain too much in too little time. Did anybody catch what the librarian was talking about?

 

Halo Waypoint is free. It was a **** move not to include them in, but I'm sure they had a reason. Also, the fact you can't listen to the characters speaking shows you have a very poor attention span.

 

 

Reason number 5

 

Cortana's death was unnecessary. She's a sassy AI that Master Chief is really attached to because he has no friends. We all liked her because she provides comedic relief. It was a little distressing to think that she might die in halo 2 or halo 3, and when she lived we were a happy. Now when we are trying to play the game and we have to listen to her "Go rampant" the entire time. It wasn't sad when she died, it was more of a "What did I just watch?" sort of feeling. Why kill off Master Chiefs AI side kick in such a dramatic creepy human-hologram robot kind of love intrest fashion?

 

It was well established years ago that Cortana coul only lie seven years. Face it- she was going to die.

 

Use your head canon if you like, but don't use that as a basis for an argument. Altogether, it sounds like you have the attention span of a five year old who has just eaten blue smarties or you're an idiot. However, I would recommend actually researching a subject before complaining about it, lest you make a very poor argument that is easily countered.

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You're right, it was much better when the forerunners were just a mysterious extinct race. The covenant look AWFUl in 4. Its like they looked at the amazing elite designs of reach and said " mmmh... How can we make them look cool? Oh i know.. We take a **** and smear it on paper, whatever it looks like will be the basis for the new character models." Another thing i don't understand is why the hell do the elites sound like a women who's been smoking for 60 years? Promethians are just ****ty and op, it took me 6 direct hit rocket shots to kill a night on legendary. Halo reach and halo 2 are in my opinion the best games in the halo series. Amazing campaigns and multiplayer. Halo 4's multiplayer made me feel like i was playing cod. Why did they add classes? And one last thing, forge. Halo reach had forge world, an amazing map where you could build anything imaginable. The halo 4 forge maps sucked, they are the size of the average multiplayer map, what the hell? I hope to god they make a halo reach anniversary, because i REALLY need forge world.

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