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Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:40 AM

So I guess most of you guys have seen already the Forward Unto Dawn trailer, if not I suggest you watch it:



Now, I have a doubt about the story itself and I would appreciate if someone clears this up for me.
Apparently, the story is taking place around 2525 +, following a group of UNSC cadets in the beginning of the Human-Covenant War. John-117 (a.k.a the badass known as the Master Chief) was born in 2510 and was abducted to become a Spartan in 2517. In the trailer he's supposed to represent a ''teenage'' (since at the time he's probably 14 or 15) version of the Chief, that's why he's not voiced by Steve Downes. My doubt here is:

-You can clearly hear a cadet call him ''Chief''. I'm pretty sure after graduating, spartans became Petty Officer Second Class. If someone knows when did John got the rank of Master Chief Petty Officer please post it.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:34 AM

i have no doubts i have to see whole before i can decide

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:50 AM

Actually the reason he wasn't voiced by steve downes is because they needed someone to fit in the suit, theres a movie actor whoms name I have clearly forgotten is the character who is in the suit and talks so its a win win. I hate it when people have doubts...

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:38 AM

He got that rank because he was the squad leader for all of the spartans. Everyone else got Petty Officer 3rd or 2nd (I don't remember)

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:50 AM

Eh, im sure if it was a mistake, its a little one, they can't expect to be perfect all the time XD

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:06 AM

I'm pretty sure it is supposed to progress forward in time. How would he have Mk VI armor in 2525?

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:49 AM

Actually the reason he wasn't voiced by steve downes is because they needed someone to fit in the suit, theres a movie actor whoms name I have clearly forgotten is the character who is in the suit and talks so its a win win. I hate it when people have doubts...


ya i saw this in a behind the scenes interview thing. I think the actor was in x-men or something like that, i dont remember either

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

I'm not doubting it im just worried...

1st Concern- They're not using Chiefs classic voice (hopefully they are that's just a "early build")
2nd Concern- I saw no covenant in the trailer... This is Halo and there are aliens EVERY WHERE (during the battles)
3rd Concern- It's interupting Halo 4 focus

Actually the reason he wasn't voiced by steve downes is because they needed someone to fit in the suit, theres a movie actor whoms name I have clearly forgotten is the character who is in the suit and talks so its a win win. I hate it when people have doubts...



Just because he's in the suit doesn't mean anything. They can still use the guy that does the chiefs voice for the game it could be a place holder

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:17 PM

3rd Concern- It's Halo 4 focus


It is supposed to bring hype to Halo 4, the last episode of this series being released a week before Halo 4. Think of it as a countdown type thing. And it's long time until Halo 4 comes out, so they something to feed our Halo hunger.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:16 PM

I'm not doubting it im just worried...

1st Concern- They're not using Chiefs classic voice (hopefully they are that's just a "early build")
2nd Concern- I saw no covenant in the trailer... This is Halo and there are aliens EVERY WHERE (during the battles)
3rd Concern- It's interupting Halo 4 focus




Just because he's in the suit doesn't mean anything. They can still use the guy that does the chiefs voice for the game it could be a place holder

Concern 1: he is 14 so even though he does have the physicality of the olympian at this age, he still isnt going to sound like he is when he is almost 50
Concern 2:If you listen to the podcasts that have come out "sparkcast 14" and "Modcast waypoint episode 121" they talk about the aliens in the game and if you pay close enogh attention you see an invisable elite's footstep in the ground in the trailer. In this series the feel is supposed to represent what humanity first felt when they first encountered the covenant: A very mysterious ,scary,terrifing creature that can sneak up on you and tear you apart. the series is what you would say a sci-fy horror action film
Concern 3:This is a seque into halo 4 as is Cryptum,Primordium,any other story plot that they put down on the halo four list 3 years ago. Considering that the filming only took 5 weeks in vancouver and that forge is being worked on by a seperate company, campaign is just being make to look better and better since its finished they have their staff working very productivly. Also all of this filming took place back in May when all of the other news came out, E3 on the bring, dealing with everything im sure they can handle this.

So I guess most of you guys have seen already the Forward Unto Dawn trailer, if not I suggest you watch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca3Y8Ws3plI&feature=g-all-f

Now, I have a doubt about the story itself and I would appreciate if someone clears this up for me.
Apparently, the story is taking place around 2525 +, following a group of UNSC cadets in the beginning of the Human-Covenant War. John-117 (a.k.a the badass known as the Master Chief) was born in 2510 and was abducted to become a Spartan in 2517. In the trailer he's supposed to represent a ''teenage'' (since at the time he's probably 14 or 15) version of the Chief, that's why he's not voiced by Steve Downes. My doubt here is:

-You can clearly hear a cadet call him ''Chief''. I'm pretty sure after graduating, spartans became Petty Officer Second Class. If someone knows when did John got the rank of Master Chief Petty Officer please post it.

If you have any doubts about Forward Unto Dawn please post them here.


with the spartan augmentations they had taken place, when they were of teenage years they alerady had the body of olympians and the intelligence of enhanced minds as if they were you daddy. However, he is still 14 -17 years of age and he is not going to sound exactly like he is his almost 50 year old self we know him as.
John took the command of Chief over the other spartan IIs because of an exersize that took place when they were still kids and his will and determination to get every spartan out of the simulation alive even though they said everyone wouldnt make it out. Throu his leadership and thinking, he was able to accomplish the mission without leaving any of the spartan trainees behind. When this happened Dr Cathrine Halsey gave John the Chief role of the spartans in his childhood for she saw his potenial. He is the Master chief Petty officer grade (i cant remember lol) hope that helps
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:08 PM

I will be slightly upset if the Covenant's CGI looks good, because they could have used it for everything. The costumes the marines use don't even look similar to anything we've seen before besides the helmet, and maybe the shoulders.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

People would have doubted it without giving it a fair chance anyway. It's very impressive for what we hadn't done yet in Halo- a cinematic series.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 03:46 PM

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You bring up a good point I didn't realize he is that young. The water moving doesn' count as seeing covenant if there was a blurr of the cammo maybe but I want to see them without the invisiblity and im sure they will. Im know 343 can handle the extra projects but it does bring some important people away from Halo 4 development like fank o connor, I do think that the extra problems are worth it though... How about saber start to work on Halo 2 Anniversary!

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 01:34 PM

I will be slightly upset if the Covenant's CGI looks good, because they could have used it for everything. The costumes the marines use don't even look similar to anything we've seen before besides the helmet, and maybe the shoulders.

In the video they arent really marines. They are the children of major people with in the UNSC that have put their kids their like a military school. They arent supposed to have the same combat armor a marine has, just training armor reasoning also why they would wear glasses instead of a visor on their eyes. So in other words their supposed to look like training armor
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:04 PM

Your also forgetting that the armour would be old as it isnt the newest version of the gungnir armour, so of course it will be of a different design.

And the name of the actor playing the Master Chief is Daniel Cudmore, he is 6 foot 6 and played colossus in X-men

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 01:19 PM

Your also forgetting that the armour would be old as it isnt the newest version of the gungnir armour, so of course it will be of a different design.

And the name of the actor playing the Master Chief is Daniel Cudmore, he is 6 foot 6 and played colossus in X-men

yea he is wearing a Mjolnir Mk IV armor in the series
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Posted 25 August 2012 - 08:41 AM

yea he is wearing a Mjolnir Mk IV armor in the series

They definitely messed the armor up in Halo Legends, as every thin is identical to Mk IV except the shoulders and helmet. Then they used that Halo Legends armor...

They should have made the armor look like this if you ask me:

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:33 PM

The actors name is Micheal Cudmore and I think they made a good choice, he was also in the x-men and uh, twilight

Imagine how many kids want that guy to go to their birthday party....

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:06 AM

The actors name is Micheal Cudmore and I think they made a good choice, he was also in the x-men and uh, twilight

Imagine how many kids want that guy to go to their birthday party....

Its David Cudmore....sorry to correct you lol

They definitely messed the armor up in Halo Legends, as every thin is identical to Mk IV except the shoulders and helmet. Then they used that Halo Legends armor...

They should have made the armor look like this if you ask me:

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The armor in legends is more correct then this one is by far. and it doesnt matter anyways because spartans could add a couple things to their armor like bigger shoulderpads like in the picture here. It ususally was for a tweak that needed to be fixed, Jorge just decided to take it to the next level.....
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:23 AM

The armor in legends is more correct then this one is by far. and it doesnt matter anyways because spartans could add a couple things to their armor like bigger shoulderpads like in the picture here. It ususally was for a tweak that needed to be fixed, Jorge just decided to take it to the next level.....

The armor in Halo Legends was just Mk VI except a bit different. The armor from the package always seemed out of place.

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